Whatever one’s opinion on the legality - he wasnt killed over a parking spot. He was killed because he was threatening bodily harm to another person. This incident may had been triggered by a parking space, but after really has nothing to do with either cars or parking spaces. It shouldn’t even be a post in this community.
But at the same time, he likely wouldn’t have been killed in a less car centric society. The number of altercations that start over driving and parking is crazy
Guys like this will find something to rage at others about. There will always be some limiting resource that becomes a source of conflict.
In a non-car society, it could have been the last of a product on the shelf, or the last spot on the bike rack.
Except I think that cars actually make people of different physicalities more equal.
Let’s be real - he got pissed because someone smaller and weaker than him bested him over some territory he wanted. In a non-car situation, he would have just stollen what he wanted or pushed her out of the way.
In this case, the car and gun both acted as equalizers, allowing her to protect herself and her kids despite the greater physicality of others around her.
Lol funny how one is upvoted while the other is downvoted while both not pertaining to cars… Let me guess, all are reporting me so that I’m banned because God forbid you people read a contrary view point? This post is just bait at this point 🤣
This can only be a life threatening situation in a country that normalises carrying murder tools.
I bet in Europe a threat would be “i will call the cops because i know i am in my rights” and those cops are just going to do their boring administrative job and not murder you.
I don’t blame the woman in context of it being America but the rational response is you get back in your car, lock the doors, possibly drive and call the cops about a dangerous mentally ill person.
He followed her through a store. He would follow her with his car. Uncontrolled rage, which he had, has no bounds. I would not be surprised if he’s just racist and seeing her skin color made him even angrier. Probably watches fox news all day or listening to podcasters telling him how ‘welfare queens’ are the problem in the world. Point is, there is probably nothing this lady could have done to calm that fucker down. “Army veteran” oh yeah fuck that guy. Killing brown people is probably entertainment for him. Rest in piss fuck face, hope you burn in hell. Glad she shot him dead. Hopefully got justice for a lot of families abroad.
Nowhere does it say he followed her trough a store, or that she ever entered the store.
“DiGuglielmo inexplicably abandoned his car in the through lane of travel" and went into the store, before shortly returning to his vehicle”
It is definitely possible that he is a racist, i honestly do get the same vibe. But where just reading a barebones article with many unanswered questions. Making suck assumption is very easy from where we stand.
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
Neutralise yeah but not with guns or permanent bodily harm. Hold you on the floor till the cops come maybe.
I don’t think many people have full time security in Europe though, not even politicians.
Harassment is like trowing a stinky egg or yelling. You will get fined for doing that and maybe a little jail.
Did some quick research on harassment of politicians in Europe.
“During the 2024 European elections campaign, there were serious incidents in several countries. Nevertheless, acts of physical violence remain isolated and less frequent in the EU than in many other parts of the world”
They all have CPOs (close protection officers) and the wealthy have private security. You just don’t know because you never see the elites, most Europeans never see the true rich
Swiss Federal council members (7 highest executive) are known to ride the train. Probably with their assistant i imagine because they probably work while travelling
I think it’s a good argument. Is it not the truth that Europeans in power get on the spot protection while those that don’t have any power are forced to be sitting ducks from random acts of violence? So much for equality…
Lol funny how one person had a totally reasonable take and then you responded with some brain dead shit. It’s not that the viewpoint is contrary, it’s that it’s moronic.
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
I mean “you people” as in “assholes that think that guns are the solution to any safety concern”. I also like guns, but thinking that someone getting shot was an appropriate way to resolve this situation is stupid as fuck. She was literally by her car and could have left instead of pulling a gun in the first place. Just because it’s legally justified by Florida’s backwards ass laws doesn’t mean it’s not absurd.
I don’t really expect an answer here, but where the fuck are all you weirdos coming from?
Over the past few weeks there’s been a huge influx of new accounts with just aggressively stupid takes on every subject imaginable.
What’s the goal here? New 4chan game? Did reddit ban a bunch of accounts from r/conspiracy? Or just weird ml shit?
I just want a place to speak my mind. I literally just responded to a comment with a take with something I see differently. I just haven’t been banned yet I guess? Eventually you’ll be back to your regular echo chamber. Funny how I’m getting attacked for responding in a rational manner.
It is rational btw, multiple states have these laws and it just makes sense. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean I deserve bans or attacks!
Yea most European citizens don’t have the same fear Americans appear to have. The first issue we solved was the availability of guns.the person arguing with you over a parking space is unlikely to have one.
Yeah it’s the same here in Canada. It’s honestly not even like we don’t have guns; I grew up in a small town and a lot of families had them for hunting. The difference though is that they were always locked up and treated as a dangerous tool rather than just a toy or a fashion accessory like they seem to be in the US.
The thought of fearing for my life regularly to the point where I feel the need to carry a firearm for self preservation is absurd to me and gives me active warzone vibes. I don’t understand how Americans can’t see that adding more guns is the most brain dead “solution” to their problems.
They haven’t even used their weapons to take on an oppressive government like they’ve endlessly claimed they’d do
Your last claim is absolutely infuriating, because it’s so incredibly dumb.
The liberals in the US has become convinced that the tool themselves are the problem, rather than the systemic issues that drive violence. The result has been that they’ve done everything that they can to limit or ban access to firearms; the actual result of their attempts has been to make it harder for marginalized people - such as the black woman in the video - to legally have firearms in many places. Sure, the laws treat everyone equally, but they have disproportionately impacted marginalized people. The other effect is that people left of center largely treat firearms as taboo and evil, so they simply refuse to own them, or be competent in their use.
In other words, libs have disarmed themselves. That leaves the conservatives and fascists as the ones holding the guns. And why the fuck would they oppose the oppressive government that they voted into power?
Fascists aren’t real in Europe. Exactly. Only in the US do fascists and violent racists exist. You are so right. You can trust all self-identifying fascists and racists in Europe to be peaceful and non violent. You are completely safe around them because they follow the laws imposed on them. They respect law and order.
Please look up the European rape crisis. 10 years ago my instructor told us how unprotected women are in Europe because they can’t own a gun. In the past 10 years rapes increased by 150%! The threat is real and protection is needed
Edit: I find it sad that people don’t dispute the statistics and just continue to report me. Facts vs feelings and such
Edit: The statistic does not include all EU nations. Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands are the largest one’s missing from what I can see.
The EU has 100,000,000 more inhabitants by the way.
Also most rapes are domestic. That’s also the primary reason for the lack of reports - people do not want their marriage to end, their families/friends to turn their backs etc. What use is a gun here?
No more arguing, we need to come together as a community, my post trying to unite:
Community, this morning I see a lot of Anti-gun and Anti-stand your ground sentiment. I think it’s unfair to bring what this woman did with her gun to the conversation. We should feel more empathy for her situation in that moment. She felt threatened and she dealt with that issue the way she was trained.
As a Fuck Cars community we need to focus on this situation as an example of how the car creates animosity between people. If both individuals arrived there in a different form of transportation, they may have not crossed paths like this. However, because it was in a car it created friction. I experience this friction in my day to day life and that’s why I hate cars. Please let’s focus on that as a community, let’s focus on how the automobile divides us, makes us angry, tears apart our community. That’s the point of this post, IMHO.
Thank you, and I’m sorry for arguing all morning. Good day.
My objection is that all you added to the conversation was the words “European rape crisis”. Absolutely nothing more of value was added by attaching a screenshot of an idiot machine’s reply to those words.
I’m definitely not anti-gun. While I’m largely undecided on the issues of “stand your ground” and “castle doctrine”, I don’t really see a problem with how the woman in this case handled the situation, so you’re barking up the wrong tree by replying to me with any of that.
Furthermore:
I think it’s unfair to bring what this woman did with her gun to the conversation.
I don’t understand how you can say that with a straight face when the post title and news article headline is “Woman who shot man during confrontation over parking space won’t be charged”.
Do you know what castle doctrine is? Because I don’t think that anyone that understands it is opposed. Every single state in the US has some version of castle doctrine. The state I live in has a duty to retreat, but IIRC that does NOT apply to your home.
Stand your ground is a different matter. I generally support that, but I would like to see it applied equally, rather than largely being extended to white cis- het- christians, and unavailable to anyone else.
I enjoy spirited driving, track days, go karting, and some other parts of cars and car culture. At the same time, I believe public transit needs to be dramatically, massively reprioritized over passenger cars. And I think trucks and SUVs should require a commercial driver’s license to legally operate.
And I put my money where my mouth is by gladly paying the ~$1000 per year RTA excise when renewing tabs for the expensive sporty electric wagon I own, which funds Sound Transit 3, in my opinion the nation’s most ambitious and impactful transit expansion.
I also often use the light rail to get to and from Seattle proper from the suburbs. And I very often have friends come visit whom I pick up and drop off at that same transit station.
When I travel abroad I go out of my way to refuse taxis, much preferring to use transit or even walking when that’s a reasonable alternative.
And at home I, at nearly all costs, avoid ever using any “rideshare” platforms.
Imagine being killed, or killing someone, over a parking space at Walmart. Very American and Patriotic.
Whatever one’s opinion on the legality - he wasnt killed over a parking spot. He was killed because he was threatening bodily harm to another person. This incident may had been triggered by a parking space, but after really has nothing to do with either cars or parking spaces. It shouldn’t even be a post in this community.
But at the same time, he likely wouldn’t have been killed in a less car centric society. The number of altercations that start over driving and parking is crazy
This dude wanted to be angry. He would have found an excuse.
He did, but some situations inflame or defuse more than others. Nothing here was guaranteed.
Guys like this will find something to rage at others about. There will always be some limiting resource that becomes a source of conflict.
In a non-car society, it could have been the last of a product on the shelf, or the last spot on the bike rack.
Except I think that cars actually make people of different physicalities more equal.
Let’s be real - he got pissed because someone smaller and weaker than him bested him over some territory he wanted. In a non-car situation, he would have just stollen what he wanted or pushed her out of the way.
In this case, the car and gun both acted as equalizers, allowing her to protect herself and her kids despite the greater physicality of others around her.
Death penalty for theft and threats! No need for a trial.
Imagine fearing for your life and not having the ability to kill the threat? Very European and “free”
Where can we get more David the gnome gifs?
Lol funny how one is upvoted while the other is downvoted while both not pertaining to cars… Let me guess, all are reporting me so that I’m banned because God forbid you people read a contrary view point? This post is just bait at this point 🤣
I thought you where just joking.
This can only be a life threatening situation in a country that normalises carrying murder tools.
I bet in Europe a threat would be “i will call the cops because i know i am in my rights” and those cops are just going to do their boring administrative job and not murder you.
I don’t blame the woman in context of it being America but the rational response is you get back in your car, lock the doors, possibly drive and call the cops about a dangerous mentally ill person.
Call the cops while you have a gun and a white guy who will tell his side of the story first. Sure bud, that will work out exactly like you imagine.
Were talking Europe here, i even said that in context of America i can’t blame the women.
He followed her through a store. He would follow her with his car. Uncontrolled rage, which he had, has no bounds. I would not be surprised if he’s just racist and seeing her skin color made him even angrier. Probably watches fox news all day or listening to podcasters telling him how ‘welfare queens’ are the problem in the world. Point is, there is probably nothing this lady could have done to calm that fucker down. “Army veteran” oh yeah fuck that guy. Killing brown people is probably entertainment for him. Rest in piss fuck face, hope you burn in hell. Glad she shot him dead. Hopefully got justice for a lot of families abroad.
Nowhere does it say he followed her trough a store, or that she ever entered the store.
“DiGuglielmo inexplicably abandoned his car in the through lane of travel" and went into the store, before shortly returning to his vehicle”
It is definitely possible that he is a racist, i honestly do get the same vibe. But where just reading a barebones article with many unanswered questions. Making suck assumption is very easy from where we stand.
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
Neutralise yeah but not with guns or permanent bodily harm. Hold you on the floor till the cops come maybe.
I don’t think many people have full time security in Europe though, not even politicians.
Harassment is like trowing a stinky egg or yelling. You will get fined for doing that and maybe a little jail.
Did some quick research on harassment of politicians in Europe.
“During the 2024 European elections campaign, there were serious incidents in several countries. Nevertheless, acts of physical violence remain isolated and less frequent in the EU than in many other parts of the world”
https://www.europarl.europa.eu/thinktank/en/document/EPRS_BRI(2025)777956
They all have CPOs (close protection officers) and the wealthy have private security. You just don’t know because you never see the elites, most Europeans never see the true rich
https://www.weforum.org/stories/climate-action/why-i-ride-my-bike-to-work-by-the-prime-minister-of-the-netherlands/
Swiss Federal council members (7 highest executive) are known to ride the train. Probably with their assistant i imagine because they probably work while travelling
You’re just copying and pasting your shitty argument to everyone that replies? True sign of a winner.
I think it’s a good argument. Is it not the truth that Europeans in power get on the spot protection while those that don’t have any power are forced to be sitting ducks from random acts of violence? So much for equality…
It’s a shit argument that has nothing to do with the original comment.
Lol funny how one person had a totally reasonable take and then you responded with some brain dead shit. It’s not that the viewpoint is contrary, it’s that it’s moronic.
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
Lmao I called your argument moronic and your solution was… To make an even stupider argument, but with a “rAcIsM” strawman?
You get mugged in the EU a lot?
Idk, EU may be safer but the possibility of a young woman getting violently raped is high no?
And now you’ve bounced from racism to young women getting raped. Do you often use deflection when you’re called out for making bad arguments?
A white person fighting back against another white person would be called racism? Weird, why would that happen?
Or are you insinuating that only scary POC would dare try to mug you?
Or, you know, the argument about EU is total bullshit…
Is it though? Let’s see if you have money in the EU and someone approaches you with a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize the threat.
If you’re a government official and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? Your security will neutralize that threat.
If you’re a regular person and someone walks up to you in a threatening manner what will happen? You will be stabbed to death and if you fight back it’s racism
All you people ever have to argue your points is “if I do $THING, the woke mob will call me a racist/homophobe”.
What do you mean you people? I fucking hate cars but love guns. We can’t be on the same side because I like guns? This is a fuck cars community.
I mean “you people” as in “assholes that think that guns are the solution to any safety concern”. I also like guns, but thinking that someone getting shot was an appropriate way to resolve this situation is stupid as fuck. She was literally by her car and could have left instead of pulling a gun in the first place. Just because it’s legally justified by Florida’s backwards ass laws doesn’t mean it’s not absurd.
Reeeeeally telling on yourself there bud.
Huh? It was just an example
What if, what if, what if…
Almost like only one has a decent point.
it’s 16 downvotes, man, calm down.
I don’t really expect an answer here, but where the fuck are all you weirdos coming from? Over the past few weeks there’s been a huge influx of new accounts with just aggressively stupid takes on every subject imaginable. What’s the goal here? New 4chan game? Did reddit ban a bunch of accounts from r/conspiracy? Or just weird ml shit?
I just want a place to speak my mind. I literally just responded to a comment with a take with something I see differently. I just haven’t been banned yet I guess? Eventually you’ll be back to your regular echo chamber. Funny how I’m getting attacked for responding in a rational manner.
It is rational btw, multiple states have these laws and it just makes sense. Just because you don’t like it doesn’t mean I deserve bans or attacks!
Lol, Imagine assuming everyone fears for their life on a day to day basis like you apparently do in the US
Yea most European citizens don’t have the same fear Americans appear to have. The first issue we solved was the availability of guns.the person arguing with you over a parking space is unlikely to have one.
Yeah it’s the same here in Canada. It’s honestly not even like we don’t have guns; I grew up in a small town and a lot of families had them for hunting. The difference though is that they were always locked up and treated as a dangerous tool rather than just a toy or a fashion accessory like they seem to be in the US.
The thought of fearing for my life regularly to the point where I feel the need to carry a firearm for self preservation is absurd to me and gives me active warzone vibes. I don’t understand how Americans can’t see that adding more guns is the most brain dead “solution” to their problems.
They haven’t even used their weapons to take on an oppressive government like they’ve endlessly claimed they’d do
Your last claim is absolutely infuriating, because it’s so incredibly dumb.
The liberals in the US has become convinced that the tool themselves are the problem, rather than the systemic issues that drive violence. The result has been that they’ve done everything that they can to limit or ban access to firearms; the actual result of their attempts has been to make it harder for marginalized people - such as the black woman in the video - to legally have firearms in many places. Sure, the laws treat everyone equally, but they have disproportionately impacted marginalized people. The other effect is that people left of center largely treat firearms as taboo and evil, so they simply refuse to own them, or be competent in their use.
In other words, libs have disarmed themselves. That leaves the conservatives and fascists as the ones holding the guns. And why the fuck would they oppose the oppressive government that they voted into power?
Trolling overtime to drive that engagement. The hustle is real.
there is no “engagement” incentive on lemmy, what?
I’m a troll but the person I responded to isn’t? How??
In Europe people aren’t really a threat to others.
Fascists aren’t real in Europe. Exactly. Only in the US do fascists and violent racists exist. You are so right. You can trust all self-identifying fascists and racists in Europe to be peaceful and non violent. You are completely safe around them because they follow the laws imposed on them. They respect law and order.
Please look up the European rape crisis. 10 years ago my instructor told us how unprotected women are in Europe because they can’t own a gun. In the past 10 years rapes increased by 150%! The threat is real and protection is needed
Edit: I find it sad that people don’t dispute the statistics and just continue to report me. Facts vs feelings and such
The US is literally worse than the entire EU despite having fewer inhabitants lmao
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191137/reported-forcible-rape-cases-in-the-usa-since-1990/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1072770/number-of-rapes-in-europe/
Edit: The statistic does not include all EU nations. Italy, Belgium and the Netherlands are the largest one’s missing from what I can see.
The EU has 100,000,000 more inhabitants by the way.
Also most rapes are domestic. That’s also the primary reason for the lack of reports - people do not want their marriage to end, their families/friends to turn their backs etc. What use is a gun here?
Is it a rise in reports or a rise in cases. A gun also can be used by the rapist.
Not in EU 😂😂
that slop ain’t wotrh the pixels its printed on.
make your own damn case
No more arguing, we need to come together as a community, my post trying to unite:
Community, this morning I see a lot of Anti-gun and Anti-stand your ground sentiment. I think it’s unfair to bring what this woman did with her gun to the conversation. We should feel more empathy for her situation in that moment. She felt threatened and she dealt with that issue the way she was trained.
As a Fuck Cars community we need to focus on this situation as an example of how the car creates animosity between people. If both individuals arrived there in a different form of transportation, they may have not crossed paths like this. However, because it was in a car it created friction. I experience this friction in my day to day life and that’s why I hate cars. Please let’s focus on that as a community, let’s focus on how the automobile divides us, makes us angry, tears apart our community. That’s the point of this post, IMHO.
Thank you, and I’m sorry for arguing all morning. Good day.
My objection is that all you added to the conversation was the words “European rape crisis”. Absolutely nothing more of value was added by attaching a screenshot of an idiot machine’s reply to those words.
I’m definitely not anti-gun. While I’m largely undecided on the issues of “stand your ground” and “castle doctrine”, I don’t really see a problem with how the woman in this case handled the situation, so you’re barking up the wrong tree by replying to me with any of that.
Furthermore:
I don’t understand how you can say that with a straight face when the post title and news article headline is “Woman who shot man during confrontation over parking space won’t be charged”.
Um.
Do you know what castle doctrine is? Because I don’t think that anyone that understands it is opposed. Every single state in the US has some version of castle doctrine. The state I live in has a duty to retreat, but IIRC that does NOT apply to your home.
Stand your ground is a different matter. I generally support that, but I would like to see it applied equally, rather than largely being extended to white cis- het- christians, and unavailable to anyone else.
What is a “car appreciater” doing in fuck cars? Ah you’re just here to cause trouble
Let me explain:
I enjoy spirited driving, track days, go karting, and some other parts of cars and car culture. At the same time, I believe public transit needs to be dramatically, massively reprioritized over passenger cars. And I think trucks and SUVs should require a commercial driver’s license to legally operate.
And I put my money where my mouth is by gladly paying the ~$1000 per year RTA excise when renewing tabs for the expensive sporty electric wagon I own, which funds Sound Transit 3, in my opinion the nation’s most ambitious and impactful transit expansion.
I also often use the light rail to get to and from Seattle proper from the suburbs. And I very often have friends come visit whom I pick up and drop off at that same transit station.
When I travel abroad I go out of my way to refuse taxis, much preferring to use transit or even walking when that’s a reasonable alternative.
And at home I, at nearly all costs, avoid ever using any “rideshare” platforms.
You’re so lost in hate and losing to facts and logic that you continue to argue in circles