Privacy groups warn that flying plate readers could expand surveillance far beyond roadside cameras.
there are many ways to counter these
If they only go 60 they ain’t catching up to me 🤷♂️
60 as the crow flies is faster than a faster car on a road
Who said I was on the road?
Lol fair enough
AI bros who don’t take “no” for an answer are the same people as cops are the same people as rapists are the same people as republicans are the same people as pedophiles are the same people as bots pushers are the same people who fucking ruin everything
It’s the “I know better than you” people
You know, people that don’t believe in the agency of others
Yup. They’re all over the perv-glasses threads telling people they have no right to privacy and it’s no different that a cell phone camera. meanwhile, they’re posting upskirts and downshirts, stalking videos, harassment, outright racist hate shit, all recorded with their cute lil fuckin perv-glasses.
And meta keeps putting facial recognition shit in the APIs but denying it.
the sad part is, they could be great tools for the disabled, but a bunch of shitkids have already ruined that use because meta wants profits more than helping people or -haha- letting people have privacy.
So…just really selfish?
It’s hilarious how toxic the replies are, Lemmy users are out here trying to fight
what
Small chunk of Lemmy users are mentally ill
The voices in my head said you don’t know what you’re talking about …so take that internet person
Lol, I encountered that. I had a user say we both don’t know what we are talking about
what are you referring to???
Think in gonna pass on this thread
A machine is being built, designed to stamp on a human face forever. We have to strangle it while it’s still in the cradle.
The window is closing rapidly
Its been being built since forever. Its not a single moment but a relentless pressure by the few to exert complete control over everyone else. We’ve been convinced to spend none of our energy opposing it, so now it grows.
2A TIMEA
You can build a net gun to disable these without any of the 2A paperwork. All you need is PVC, net, a sprinkler valve, and a blow gun (the kind you use to release compressed air). If you can build a potato cannon you can build a net gun.
That gonna cost so much money to replace
Much harder and much more illegal to interfere with a drone; I’d be shocked if these needed replacing due to vandalism at all, let alone as frequently as people take out terrestrial Flock cameras.
IDK I got plenty of 338 ready to go 🤷
Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Either you’re a super-genius that has worked out a cost-effective widely-adoptable anti-drone technology or technique that simply hasn’t occurred to Ukraine/Russia/USA/Iran/Oman/Saudi Arabia/etc…
…or you’re just a person on the internet with an inflated ego.
I know which one I think is more likely, especially given you weren’t able to differentiate between “Canon” and a “cannon.”
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone. Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
I’m pretty sure drones get destroyed all the time it’s just that there’s a lot of fucking drones and I don’t think the militaries of the world are opposed to sending 50 drones to have 1 hit the target.
Yeah you’re overestimating the amount of effort it would take to thwart 1 drone.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone.
For no apparent reason.
Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
And you think fiber optics are somehow impossible for law enforcement to deploy for what reason? Not to mention that has nothing to do with your Canon strategy, so goal-post moved successfully I guess.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
I’m sure you have plenty of ideas. I’m less sure that most or any of them are worthwhile - at least as far as drone countermeasures go; if they were, you’d be far too busy making tons of money selling such equipment to the aforementioned countries.
Actually I do think it would be difficult for cops to use fiberoptic cable for the stated reason of being a speed trap. Militaries don’t usually clean up after themselves, but having miles of fiberoptic along the expressway is probably dangerous and definitely littering. Not to mention they would have to be constantly purchasing more fiberoptic just to read license plates.
Military use is expendable, domestic use needs to be reusable.
I think you’re assuming the police would use the drones to kamikaze blow things up, leaving the fiber-optic behind.
They need a reason to be different? Kinda getting desperate.
Yeah I don’t see fiber optic being useful for flock cameras because well a car can run into the fiber optic cables and either pull it out of the drone or the operator using it. And it’s liability let’s say you they land on a power line and get fried or short the grid.
Could you imagine winding up a fiber optic cable every time just you use a flock camera? Yeah your gonna use the wireless model.
My ideas are probably already implemented. Either because I got them from someone else or I got them from an existing technology.
If anything I’m importing the ideas from Russian war
They need a reason to be different?
Yes, they need differences to be different. Sorry if that doesn’t make sense to you.
It feels like death will soon be better than existence.
That’s until the invent the Great Nexus and make death another advertisement billboard.
And thats when we have nothing to lose. We free ourselves or die trying.
Don’t lose hope. The legal logic of the recent Chatrie supreme court ruling on geofence warrants is now being applied to ALPR lawsuits.
“When death is no longer the worst alternative, there will be revolution.”
- my highschool history teacher
Great, now I need an AA gun on top of my car.
Pretty soon they’ll just have drones in the air monitoring large public events. Then smaller events. Most definitely any kind of protest.
Technology is advancing faster than the ability of our aging, decrepit electorate to regulate it.
Big thanks to all the leftists who stayed home because their local Democrat wasn’t left enough for them.
Big thanks to the Democratic party who will only run genocidal neoliberal ghouls.
Found the “accidental” MAGA-enabler!
Nope - the MAGA enablers are the party leaders who will not run or support candidates who are not genocidal neoliberal ghouls.
What’s the point in beating MAGA with a genocidal neoliberal?
“What’s the point in choosing to eat sand instead of poop (especially when not voting to eat poop means eating poop will be less likely to be one of the choices)? They both taste bad, so we may as well flip a coin.”
Police drones have been in use for many years for crowds
Like how nsa and the spying was real since Snowden leaks.
…but it’s going to be worse.
Sometimes I wonder if social media was specifically funded by the FEDs to datamine. They spent years manipulating people and collecting data, and now they are building data centers and applying software to profile people. It seems clear they will use hardware for policing on a new level, as well as move from the police force to ICE. These new drones and flock style ai monitoring is like the datamining of the real world.
I think people are too engrossed in cultural consumer and entertainment escapism to even understand how fucked up things are. And it’s sad because that escapism is also feeding the datamining and marketing to further out people in hole soullessness and social manipulation. The path of our lives isn’t even our natural path anymore, they use our life for reasons that aren’t ours. Shit. That last sentence is a paraphrase from John Stockwell - a CIA whistle blower from the 80s.
Death seems like it’s slowly becoming more genuine than life. Like it seems obvious the goal of those in control has nothing to do with genuine humanity, but instead some psychotic ideology based off fear of freedom and natural existence.
If we’re lucky maybe someday they’ll allow us assisted suicide for the ailment of understanding truth. …but they’ll probably just crucify us, or genocide.
You’re 100%
Look up the day Lifelog was retired by the gov and the day Facebook started… Do you believe in coincidences?
Your ancestors were made of sun and soil and dancing and joy and community and struggle. Those things still exist. You do not need to feed the algorithm.
You missed jpreston2005’s entire point, possibly intentionally for a chance to virtue signal.
I genuinely don’t see what point I could have missed, they said drones will be used for something, but drones are already in use for that very thing.
Pedantically, yes, they should’ve mentioned drones have already been used.
More to the point, the vast majority of their comment highlights the bar is getting lower and lower for what drones will be used for.
Yeah that is the reason I quit going to protest in Morganton, NC of all places.
Some local cops got in trouble this year because they were using their drones as PHYSICAL enforcement of the drone-ban for the 4th of July fireworks.
As in, they didn’t follow drones to find their owners, they tried to use their own drone to smash other ones out of the sky. They hit a car on the way down…
Most depressing read of the week. RIP Bill of Rights.
https://aerocorner.com/blog/legally-take-down-drone/
Can I shoot down a drone?
It is illegal to shoot a drone out of the sky, even when the drone is flying over private property.
Is it legal to jam a drone?
Jamming any type of radio signal is illegal.
Can drones fly over houses?
Drones can legally fly over houses in most areas.
What should I do if I feel that a drone is invading my privacy?
If you believe that a drone is infringing on your right to privacy, there are several options available. You can contact the owner of the drone and ask them to stop flying it in your vicinity, report it to local law enforcement or file a complaint with the FAA.
So its legal to shoot someone on your property if you have a sign about it on your fence but illegal to take down a drone? Feels like those priorities are pretty baclwards…
It’s an extension of noble privilege, like Fox Hunting… Only rich people fly, so drones are as protected as rich people.
It is illegal to shoot a drone out of the sky
Yeah well, it’s illegal to hold an insurrection against the US government, kidnap and imprison foreign country leaders, serially rape both adults and children, and defraud US elections, but it would seem being illegal doesn’t actually mean anything.
All depends on who is committing the crimes… You know that
Yeah… I think the solution is more crime.
Remember kids, moral and legal are very different concepts.
Begun, the Drone Wars have.
It’s going to get worse before it gets better.
You joke but it’s really your only option that isn’t a felony. There will be an faa investigation, but you won’t immediately cop a felony.
Can I fly my own drone really close to a surveillance drone? You know, one that’s coincidentally full of expensive parts?
Well… Yes. But why would you do such a thing?
Automated drone that automatically fly in front of the flock drone’s camera to block its view, from the minimum safe/legal distance away. Multiple drones if that’s too far to have a decent effect.
I doubt you could bump a drone out of the sky. Think you’d want to find a way to throw a stick in its spokes.
Like the robot wars… Only with drones… You got yourself the next reality TV show
You absolutely could, if you fly down from above you will damage the rotors, and the drone will crash.
You can also tape a stick to it and go jousting. There’s videos online of Ukrainians doing both to counter Russian drones.
A light net or long strings would work wonders.
And you could definitely program it to home in, not that I would dream of doing such a thing…
I do love to fly kites.
HomingKites are a wonderful, legal thing.
What if I’m just casually tossing nets in my backyard and just happen to snag the drone?
eBay has drones for like $12. It’d be a bummer if they accidentally bumped into each other.
Those 12 dollar ones are less than 100 grams and are using WiFi and would not really put a dent in that drone. Maybe you fan fly it at the props of the survalience drone, but I doubt you can even reach the altitude the survalience drones where meant to run on. Micro drones are actually the best to learn on because they’re so light its much harder to crash them. Once you are over 100-250 grams the force of the impact of a crash is much higher.
You need a 5 inch frame, something that can use 4s, or 6s batteries that pull more amps. and you’re gonna want fpv if youre doing dog fights. A decent 5 inch frame you build yourself is around 400 with the camera, transmitter, flight controller, motors, props, battery, etc. The radio and fpv head set you can get for maybe 200, but you really want spend around 600 for those. Youre gonna be over the 250 gram flight limit before you gotta start doing legal shit, but fuck the FAA.
That and most of the “real” drones that arent just some bullshit dji consumer friendly drone don’t fly easily. You get horizon, level, and acro. Acro is the mode you will actually use to fly, and you want at minimum a good 10-20 hours to be proficient enough to just hover/puts around without crashing. I’d say hitting another moving target is some where between 40-80 hours.
But a small 100g drone can carry quite a bit of high tensile strength string… Let’s see the big drone fly without it’s propellers.
I remember years ago an engineer for the ARGUS-IS doing like a PSA warning about all of this. The missing piece then was a systems to sift through mountains of disparate data sources to pull together a single cohesive and relevant data point.
Which I’m guessing is why data centers are so hot right now. Surveillance state brought to us by big tech, billionaires, and corporations. They sell this stuff to naive or malicious police and government officials. I’m not too surprised the police are on board but so very many politicians are signing their localities up for it and citizens aren’t happy.
We need something like deflock to keep track of who is signing off on all of this so people can organize and vote them out. It’s a very bipartisan issue.
“Citizen, our drone spotted you smoking marijuana in your bedroom. Do you have a prescription? Let’s figure this out downtown.”
downtown??
You know what cops are famous for, right?
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are umbrellas illegal yet?
Parasols. Umbrellas stop rain, so it’s sus1 to use one when it isn’t raining. Parasols are for sunny days.
1 - Being sus might as well be a crime in the US at this point.
