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Ahhhh, there’s ways to take out drones without anyone noticing. My favorite is a microwave Canon and the drone will fall out of the sky onto hard ground.
Either you’re a super-genius that has worked out a cost-effective widely-adoptable anti-drone technology or technique that simply hasn’t occurred to Ukraine/Russia/USA/Iran/Oman/Saudi Arabia/etc…
…or you’re just a person on the internet with an inflated ego.
I know which one I think is more likely, especially given you weren’t able to differentiate between “Canon” and a “cannon.”
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone. Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
I’m pretty sure drones get destroyed all the time it’s just that there’s a lot of fucking drones and I don’t think the militaries of the world are opposed to sending 50 drones to have 1 hit the target.
Yeah you’re overestimating the amount of effort it would take to thwart 1 drone.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone.
For no apparent reason.
Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
And you think fiber optics are somehow impossible for law enforcement to deploy for what reason? Not to mention that has nothing to do with your Canon strategy, so goal-post moved successfully I guess.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
I’m sure you have plenty of ideas. I’m less sure that most or any of them are worthwhile - at least as far as drone countermeasures go; if they were, you’d be far too busy making tons of money selling such equipment to the aforementioned countries.
Actually I do think it would be difficult for cops to use fiberoptic cable for the stated reason of being a speed trap. Militaries don’t usually clean up after themselves, but having miles of fiberoptic along the expressway is probably dangerous and definitely littering. Not to mention they would have to be constantly purchasing more fiberoptic just to read license plates.
Military use is expendable, domestic use needs to be reusable.
In practical terms, drones can’t respool their fiberoptic tether - in any dynamic environment, the fiber will at some point become entangled preventing it from being retracted. While there are prototype systems that use Power Over Fiber to keep a drone (and usually it’s cable to prevent entangling) aloft indefinitely, all of those I’m aware of have an extremely limited weight capacity (far too little to support a decent optical setup) and aren’t much of a concern.
Otherwise, a pursuit drone with an optical tether is a poor solution; it will leave fiber strewn behind it, the fiber is extremely vulnerable to accidental damage from something like a car or being wrapped around a sharp edge, has limited range and requires the base station to be static (so one could simply Hit Da Bricks their way out of a pursuit). There’s also almost never a concern about wide area jamming in the civilian locales that these might be deployed in, so there’s no real reason to use fiber instead of military style frequency-hopping radios.
That hypothetical microwave cannon would be an equal threat to both (if it exists), and if someone deploys a jammer to evade pursuit you can simply identify the epicenter of the disruption and follow them that way (something the FCC does regularly). And that’s ignoring that there are AI-enhanced systems that can follow a target autonomously until the drone is able to reestablish a connection to the controller.
Honestly, birdshot and other drones are probably going to be the best counter to these systems.
I wish you made this comment a while ago, because at this point I’m done discussing this due to all the bad faith shenanigans I’ve been getting here, so I’m not even going to bother reading it purely due to exhaustion.
Eeh, fair enough I suppose. Basically optical fiber is impractical for police use, but these drones are a great use case for frequency hopping radios like what’s used in Ukraine.
Unfortunately, that means the most likely counter to these available to the average person is going to be shotguns and flying other drones into them.
My main irritation that spurred the comment you replied to is in response to “heheheh drone interception is so easy, I personally invented 500 techniques.”
I’m not a drone expert. Maybe you are. But that person clearly is not.
??? We’re talking about the feasibility of using fiberoptic cables to control drones that can survey entire communities. How is that not relevant? Yes there are systems that can recover the cable. But there’s lots of shit for it to get caught on in a town. Like I don’t know what you’re arguing for.
They need a reason to be different? Kinda getting desperate.
Yeah I don’t see fiber optic being useful for flock cameras because well a car can run into the fiber optic cables and either pull it out of the drone or the operator using it. And it’s liability let’s say you they land on a power line and get fried or short the grid.
Could you imagine winding up a fiber optic cable every time just you use a flock camera? Yeah your gonna use the wireless model.
My ideas are probably already implemented. Either because I got them from someone else or I got them from an existing technology.
If anything I’m importing the ideas from Russian war
Nah, it’s just that you’re being pedantic (or suck at reading comprehension).
“I feel that liquid water and gaseous water have a significantly different chemical formula.”
You feel that way for no apparent reason. Pedantically, the reason could be “because you are lying” or “because you are dumb.” Practically, we both know you might mean to say, “Well, chemically they are the same, but one is less dense.”
Yeah you went metaphysical. I don’t consider liquid water a chemical formula, but chemical formula will state if water is liquid or a gas.
Buuuut you kinda lost on drone argument. MAGA acts the same way when they lose an argument just start another argument to lose to distract from the last argument they lost.
I always end up thinking that they may forget the details, but they don’t forget the emotions they went through as they lost, so they accumulating bad emotions.
You’re 2 best options are to admit I’m right (on somethings) or actually prove me wrong. You ain’t doing so good on option 2
Buuuut you kinda lost on drone argument. MAGA acts the same way when they lose an argument just start another argument to lose to distract from the last argument they lost.
No I didn’t. I used a metaphor. If that’s above your comprehension, I’m sorry but I lack the tools and experience to help you with that.
The rest of your comment is just smug trolling, so enjoy the block. A quick glance at your profile shows I won’t be missing out on much.
Either you’re a super-genius that has worked out a cost-effective widely-adoptable anti-drone technology or technique that simply hasn’t occurred to Ukraine/Russia/USA/Iran/Oman/Saudi Arabia/etc…
…or you’re just a person on the internet with an inflated ego.
I know which one I think is more likely, especially given you weren’t able to differentiate between “Canon” and a “cannon.”
Yeah I think drones used for war is different than a flock drone. Also Russia and Ukraine have destroyed drones in mass via jamming. Why drones have fiber optic cables now.
I’m pretty sure drones get destroyed all the time it’s just that there’s a lot of fucking drones and I don’t think the militaries of the world are opposed to sending 50 drones to have 1 hit the target.
Yeah you’re overestimating the amount of effort it would take to thwart 1 drone.
Also I got more ideas microwave Canon is the most fun
For no apparent reason.
And you think fiber optics are somehow impossible for law enforcement to deploy for what reason? Not to mention that has nothing to do with your Canon strategy, so goal-post moved successfully I guess.
I’m sure you have plenty of ideas. I’m less sure that most or any of them are worthwhile - at least as far as drone countermeasures go; if they were, you’d be far too busy making tons of money selling such equipment to the aforementioned countries.
Actually I do think it would be difficult for cops to use fiberoptic cable for the stated reason of being a speed trap. Militaries don’t usually clean up after themselves, but having miles of fiberoptic along the expressway is probably dangerous and definitely littering. Not to mention they would have to be constantly purchasing more fiberoptic just to read license plates.
Military use is expendable, domestic use needs to be reusable.
I think you’re assuming the police would use the drones to kamikaze blow things up, leaving the fiber-optic behind.
In practical terms, drones can’t respool their fiberoptic tether - in any dynamic environment, the fiber will at some point become entangled preventing it from being retracted. While there are prototype systems that use Power Over Fiber to keep a drone (and usually it’s cable to prevent entangling) aloft indefinitely, all of those I’m aware of have an extremely limited weight capacity (far too little to support a decent optical setup) and aren’t much of a concern.
Otherwise, a pursuit drone with an optical tether is a poor solution; it will leave fiber strewn behind it, the fiber is extremely vulnerable to accidental damage from something like a car or being wrapped around a sharp edge, has limited range and requires the base station to be static (so one could simply Hit Da Bricks their way out of a pursuit). There’s also almost never a concern about wide area jamming in the civilian locales that these might be deployed in, so there’s no real reason to use fiber instead of military style frequency-hopping radios.
That hypothetical microwave cannon would be an equal threat to both (if it exists), and if someone deploys a jammer to evade pursuit you can simply identify the epicenter of the disruption and follow them that way (something the FCC does regularly). And that’s ignoring that there are AI-enhanced systems that can follow a target autonomously until the drone is able to reestablish a connection to the controller.
Honestly, birdshot and other drones are probably going to be the best counter to these systems.
I wish you made this comment a while ago, because at this point I’m done discussing this due to all the bad faith shenanigans I’ve been getting here, so I’m not even going to bother reading it purely due to exhaustion.
Have a good one.
Eeh, fair enough I suppose. Basically optical fiber is impractical for police use, but these drones are a great use case for frequency hopping radios like what’s used in Ukraine.
Unfortunately, that means the most likely counter to these available to the average person is going to be shotguns and flying other drones into them.
My main irritation that spurred the comment you replied to is in response to “heheheh drone interception is so easy, I personally invented 500 techniques.”
I’m not a drone expert. Maybe you are. But that person clearly is not.
I think you’re assuming that fiberoptic isn’t going to get caught on shit all the time.
Is there nothing to get caught on in Ukraine? Or are you just introducing an irrelevant point?
??? We’re talking about the feasibility of using fiberoptic cables to control drones that can survey entire communities. How is that not relevant? Yes there are systems that can recover the cable. But there’s lots of shit for it to get caught on in a town. Like I don’t know what you’re arguing for.
You seem to be asserting fiber optics are impractical for drone use. I point to the entire invasion of Ukraine in recent years.
Your move.
They need a reason to be different? Kinda getting desperate.
Yeah I don’t see fiber optic being useful for flock cameras because well a car can run into the fiber optic cables and either pull it out of the drone or the operator using it. And it’s liability let’s say you they land on a power line and get fried or short the grid.
Could you imagine winding up a fiber optic cable every time just you use a flock camera? Yeah your gonna use the wireless model.
My ideas are probably already implemented. Either because I got them from someone else or I got them from an existing technology.
If anything I’m importing the ideas from Russian war
Yes, they need differences to be different. Sorry if that doesn’t make sense to you.
But that’s not a reason nor does it explain why they need a reason to be different. Curious if you’ll go metaphysical.
They are different I’m just laughing at that “for no reason” response. It’s like you meant it to mean something.
Nah, it’s just that you’re being pedantic (or suck at reading comprehension).
“I feel that liquid water and gaseous water have a significantly different chemical formula.”
You feel that way for no apparent reason. Pedantically, the reason could be “because you are lying” or “because you are dumb.” Practically, we both know you might mean to say, “Well, chemically they are the same, but one is less dense.”
Yeah you went metaphysical. I don’t consider liquid water a chemical formula, but chemical formula will state if water is liquid or a gas.
Buuuut you kinda lost on drone argument. MAGA acts the same way when they lose an argument just start another argument to lose to distract from the last argument they lost.
I always end up thinking that they may forget the details, but they don’t forget the emotions they went through as they lost, so they accumulating bad emotions.
You’re 2 best options are to admit I’m right (on somethings) or actually prove me wrong. You ain’t doing so good on option 2
No I didn’t. I used a metaphor. If that’s above your comprehension, I’m sorry but I lack the tools and experience to help you with that.
The rest of your comment is just smug trolling, so enjoy the block. A quick glance at your profile shows I won’t be missing out on much.