• xenomor@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    Didn’t watch the presentation. Should I assume that anyone wearing an apple watch from now on is recording my audio without consent?

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      1 day ago

      I think it’s doing on-device summarization. No transcript is retained or sent off.

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        1 day ago

        This is the correct comment. But the one with the assumption is voted higher. Lemmy loving vibes more than facts, day 1,436.

        Yes, the audio is never stored, the summaries can be completely turned off, and yes, Apple again is caught inside its own bubble being ever more disconnected from the outside silicon valley life. They should not have touted this so strongly and loudly.

        People will these devices are being kidnapped daily and forced to open their devices. Even without the audio some of these transcripts can be used as evidence against them or their families, violating their 5th amendment rights.

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          You don’t have the facts either though. You are just assuming whatever Apple says is the truth.

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            1 day ago

            Apple says stuff about Apple product. How is that not a fact?

            They said that. They have very little incentive to lie.

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              They have the only incentive that matters to lie: Profit.

              If they would admit that the Data is send to Servers and or saved, there would be backlash hurting their bottom line.

              And they should record and save everything to collect and sell the Data, aiding their bottom line.

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                Man, I don’t know. Where I’m coming ‘Profit’ is the exact reason not to do this.

                You’re applying redneck town butcher level of business logic to the most successful corporation on the planet, constantly being probed by hackers.

                They are so married to this privacy stance that even the hint of that coming out would decimate their userbase.

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                  Most normal Data collection is already ignored

                  Either willfully because it got normalized or not really willfully since “they wouldnt do it because what if it came Out?”

                  Well… They do it. It is known. But since Apple always was pretty culty the members dont really care and everyone that cares doesnt use Apple, because they know they steal Data and dont believe the pinky promise they wouldnt sell it.

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                    Look, I like that you’re a crititical thinker. Now read the disclaimer at the bottom:

                    Privacy Exposure ratings and summaries are AI-generated assessments based on publicly available privacy policies

                    That’s right, you quoted slop to a cult member!

                    Health data is not stored, are you mad. That would violate every country’s privacy law other than the USA and China.

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      2 days ago

      That’s what I’ll be assuming

      I wonder how this will be legally interpreted in states with two-party-consent recording laws

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      It’s a clever idea, although obviously many consumers are nervous about a proliferation of always-listening devices. The feature will be opt-in and obviously, Apple will tout its stringent privacy-preserving implementation compared to the competition. Apple’s version will not actually store audio recordings, nor will it present a transcript of conversations.

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        1 day ago

        Let me tell you about apples “stringent” privacy. It means they will hesitate a second before giving the administration anything they ask.

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      1 day ago

      I believe Apple Watch already ships with always on Siri, but I don’t know anyone who left that turned on.

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      1 day ago

      Nothing changed in that regard. It doesn’t record audio, sound recognition runs on device. In the exact same way that all modern Apple devices (watches, phones, earbuds, …) can already listen for Hey Siri, and other brands listen for their wake words etc.

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      I think it will be functionally different than “recording”. When you talk to Siri or any other voice assistant, does it record your voice or simply transcribe it? This seems to be the latter.

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        And Apple has always made a point of saying things like this are on-device, not cloud