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    1 day ago

    Apple says stuff about Apple product. How is that not a fact?

    They said that. They have very little incentive to lie.

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      They have the only incentive that matters to lie: Profit.

      If they would admit that the Data is send to Servers and or saved, there would be backlash hurting their bottom line.

      And they should record and save everything to collect and sell the Data, aiding their bottom line.

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        Man, I don’t know. Where I’m coming ‘Profit’ is the exact reason not to do this.

        You’re applying redneck town butcher level of business logic to the most successful corporation on the planet, constantly being probed by hackers.

        They are so married to this privacy stance that even the hint of that coming out would decimate their userbase.

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          Most normal Data collection is already ignored

          Either willfully because it got normalized or not really willfully since “they wouldnt do it because what if it came Out?”

          Well… They do it. It is known. But since Apple always was pretty culty the members dont really care and everyone that cares doesnt use Apple, because they know they steal Data and dont believe the pinky promise they wouldnt sell it.

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            Look, I like that you’re a crititical thinker. Now read the disclaimer at the bottom:

            Privacy Exposure ratings and summaries are AI-generated assessments based on publicly available privacy policies

            That’s right, you quoted slop to a cult member!

            Health data is not stored, are you mad. That would violate every country’s privacy law other than the USA and China.

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                17 hours ago

                Ok, I’m hopping off here, but

                Manik Berry

                With a Master’s degree in journalism, Manik writes about big tech and has a keen eye for political-tech news. In his free time, he’s browsing the Kindle store for new stuff read. Manik also adores his motorcycle and is looking for new routes on weekends. He likes tea and cat memes. You can reach him at manik.berry@fossbytes.com

                This journalist tells you apple stores health data. Aside from that being very vague (your DOB could possibly be considered a “health data”), he provides no evidence or sources at all, like any decent internet journalist trying to grift of a blog to survive.

                The internet will always tell you you’re right, the question is: why would they and how could they benefit from that, when they stand so much to benefit from not doing it, let alone save themselves the hassle of dealing with that data.

                Anyway, another day on the internet arguing between two people who absolutely won’t see the other’s viewpoint. What it is to be human.

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                23 hours ago

                no one said apple doesn’t collect any data at all. The fact that your article says apple collects some data relevant to their services, which people choose to use, does not mean they are listening to everything on your device’s microphones.

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                  23 hours ago

                  Ah damn it. Forgot the cult stage of “it’s okay that they collect it.” That comes after “No they dont do it.”

                  And now we are at the “No they dont listen 24/7”

                  And in about 5 years you are telling others that it is okay that they listen for 24/7.