• brucethemoose@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    12
    ·
    edit-2
    5 hours ago

    The title is misleading. It wasn’t an LLM, but a bespoke, dedicated system.

    And yes, I know that’s sort of “AI,” but these days when that word is used, the average person equates it to ChatGPT or Gemini or whatever text chatbot they’re familiar with.

    This basically has nothing to do with that. Scientists have been making models for design and data synthesis forever.

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    28
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Don’t fucking post images of headlines.

    Find a source that isn’t paywalled and link to the article. Or don’t post anything at all.

    • BeatTakeshi@lemmy.worldOP
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      18
      ·
      6 hours ago

      Or fuck off? Like is it harder to read in a picture? Want me to clean your screen, wipe your ass too?

      • michaelmrose@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        5
        ·
        2 hours ago

        People who aren’t illiterate actually read articles. You post the information about the article so that people know if they want to read it or not. Then we discuss the contents of the article with other assholes who also read the article.

        Because discussing with others who have also only read the blurb is fucking useless because nobody knows a fucking thing.

        Posting the article link both makes it easy to facilitate this while also maintaining the polite fiction that the other dumbasses could have at least in theory read the article.

        You are posting here but you have no fucking idea what the fucking point of such forums is because you are an illiterate child and then you have the nerve to get angry. You don’t have to provide a link… you don’t have to make a post either you could leave that task to the actual adults.

        Also the culture of posting such pictures results in trivial fakes blending in because idiots judge the veracity of the source pictured without any way to authenticate unlike a fucking url.

      • quick_snail@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        8
        ·
        edit-2
        5 hours ago

        Pictures are not reliable sources for information. It promotes a culture of disinformation.

        And blind people can’t read words in images.

  • Phoenixz@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 hours ago

    Well, this IS an important milestone towards curea for many illnesses and problems, and yes, this is a field where AI could actually accel and be a great tool

    I have a long list of issues with AI, but this ain’t on it.

    • deft@lemmy.wtf
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      8 hours ago

      Everyone kept enjoying dystopian media they thought they’d bring it into real life

      • TiredDinoByte@lemmy.today
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        4
        ·
        6 hours ago

        Not really though, a virus is just a vector for introducing a message into a living cell so a virus CAN be a cure in and of itself. I would also bet that the “AI” they used is actually just a ML algorithm but the internet needed clicks so they slapped “AI” on it.

      • Amnesigenic@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        6 hours ago

        Refusing to engage with the technology just guarantees that when someone else inevitably engineers a virus you’ll be unable to do anything about it

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    7 hours ago

    Really? I remember listening to about this years ago on radiolab?

    Or maybe that was bacteria. Some kind of anthrax like bioweapon

  • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    24
    ·
    18 hours ago

    “Grok. Engineer me a highly infectious virus. Optimize it to have high lethality to ethnic groups other than my own, but low lethality to my own ethnic group.”

    This world is cursed.

  • godsammitdam@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    1
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    6 hours ago

    That’s called a cognitohazard. An infohazard. Just that knowledge existing is dangerous.

    Just wait until we get 3D biological printers that can print protein chains at home.

    If we make it there. The fire tornadoes say that maybe climate apocalypse has it first. Though nuclear might take the winner since the US has a pedophile manbaby in office that can never admit defeat currently engaged in a lost war.

  • danekrae@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    77
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    23 hours ago

    I’m guessing it created it the same way i created a giant eight limbed creature called an Octophant, using a piece of paper and a pencil.

    It does not make it exist.

    • Marthirial@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Mine was called Strandaglend and added tempera to the medium. Sometimes I forget the middle name of relatives but never of my creation 42 years ago.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      30
      ·
      23 hours ago

      According to this non-paywalled article, it created thousands of potential genomes from which the scientists running the experiment chose three hundred promising candidates. They then had bacteria make those and used them for their bacteriophagy experiment. So essentially the AI made the blueprints that the scientists then turned into real stuff.

      • barnacul@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        6 hours ago

        So the AI’s role in all this, given that creating new viruses in a lab is already understood and well-practiced, was just to generate a list of virus configuration options (presumably working from existing examples), from which scientists had to discard ~90% of what the AI generated before moving on to the next step.

        Sounds like an attempt at a headline more than a genuine scientific effort.

        • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          6 hours ago

          So the AI’s role in this process, which is already known and well-practiced,

          Uh… no? Creating custom-made genomes for curing specific diseases isn’t “known and well-practiced;” it’s an area of active research.

          from which scientists had to discard ~90% of what the AI generated before moving on to the next step.

          That’s basically in line with how AI is used in similar applications; even if most of what you get is busts AI can make so much stuff that it can compete with (or even outdo) other alternatives by sheer quantity. Sure someone has to filter out the useful stuff from the trash, but the very fact that it produces useful stuff makes it worth it. This method is well-established in other areas, so there’s no reason to dismiss it here.

      • danekrae@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        12
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        23 hours ago

        Let’s get real here. Could the bacteria make my Octophant if I clean up the pencil lines?!

    • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      18 hours ago

      A version of this came out of a DND campaign. They’re called octen. Like oxen, but octen. They’re like regular oxen, except they have eight legs. The legs have the same fur and color as cattle legs, but then bend up and move like a tarantula’s.

    • DarkCloud@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Same way we all created the sun, and built a house next to it as children. All without picking up a hammer. Lazy kids.

    • chaogomu@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Yes and no. Going from a design to production takes remarkably little time these days.

      • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        2
        arrow-down
        2
        ·
        23 hours ago

        So you just scan his picture of an octophant and print it out and it exists? I’d bet you have a bunch of meat and no life. That said, please spend the time and effort into something more productive instead of a octophant was the point

        • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          4
          ·
          22 hours ago

          That said, please spend the time and effort into something more productive

          Like curing antibiotic-resistant bacterial diseases? Because that’s what the experiment was for.

          • LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            2
            arrow-down
            2
            ·
            edit-2
            22 hours ago

            An octophant is a bacterial disease? Lol

            And yes this experiment may be an absolutely stupid thing to do. Could it work out in a extremely well regulated extremely tight secure facility, sure.

            Is that happening, not in the U.S., we are cutting all the regulations and health precautions, so if what they create ever kills good bacteria as well during the tests, you should assume it will be spreading to the population.

            Why wasn’t it contained? Our research grants were cut in half so we skipped on the precautions. Also the regulatory board no longer exists, and our OSHA equivalent hasn’t stopped by in over 2 years. I think they may have shut down

    • chaogomu@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      23 hours ago

      Yes and no. Going from a design to production takes remarkably little time these days.

      • isleepinahammock@lemmy.blahaj.zone
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        18 hours ago

        Are there commercial virus-printing services? If so, what keeps some yahoo from sending them the virus-equivalent of a .stl file for smallpox? Can someone just order virulent pathogens printed on command?

        • chaogomu@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          22 hours ago

          I mean, it’s a known process.

          There’s a YouTube channel called Thought Emporium.

          The guy used to do live streams were he designed custom DNA, and then ordered it from a lab that could produce it.

          It was a simple commercial transaction.

          • cub Gucci@lemmy.today
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            1
            ·
            11 hours ago

            I used to work in a wet lab. Agree, designing or multiplying DNA is not a problem. The problem is to make it stable and do what you intend it to do. This could be done only by allowing ai to control the whole process with minimal human interaction

      • Fawkes@lemmy.zip
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        13
        arrow-down
        5
        ·
        16 hours ago

        Sorry, but the anti-AI movement is about as well informed as the anti-vax and flat-earth movement.

        I am pro-AI and yet fully agree it needs to be ethically and responsibly used and regulated. Data super-centers bad, Grok bad, ChatGPT bad, etc.

        I have even seen people say “LLMs can only be chatbots and all chatbots are bad!” Not understanding that this type of research, as well as weather prediction, and animal behaviour studies, all use LLMs.

        And every time I’ve attempted to broach the subject, I’ve been accused of being an OpenAI fanboy, etc.