We live in a techno feudalism, it’s not a democracy, it’s no longer Capitalism. It’s Capitalism almost completely mediated through elite technocrats. The only freedom we have, the only potential for regaining control, is boycotting via massive, well organized, well understood, well conducted unsubscription programs, and campaigns. Lightening fast protest statements where we control who we fund, which services we use, and which we deny and defund by taking our usage data away (and their services away from us which takes discipline). Denying them data to sell, and profits/subscriptions.

This is the future politics we have to start discussing with others, the idea we have to spread, as it’s currently the only way to have a say within this current state of techno feudalism.

If we don’t we will end up in subscription model nations, living as slaves, with end user agreements, rather than human rights.

Nuclear plants being reopened for the sake of AI?!!

Do you have ANY evidence this is happening?

It is a closed loop, but the paper treats it as if it’s an open loop, and counts all water use for the building, as well as all the water that went into creating any equipment used… and the water that escapes power plants in powering the buildings… it also includes any other buildings that might house related services. Here is the original “study” which is about what maths could be done given the above assumptions:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.03271

In short, it has nothing to do with reality, and is more just an attempt at the authors to get their names out there (on bad science that the media is interested in publicizing for click bait reasons).

The study that suggests 10-50 interactions with ChatGPT evaporates a whole bottle of water, doesn’t account for the fact that cooling systems are enclosed…

…and that “study” is based on a bunch of assumptions, which include evaporation from local power plants, as well as the entire buildings GPT’s servers are located in. It does this as if one user is served at a time, and the organizations involved (such as microsoft) do nothing BUT serve one use at a time. So the “study” (which isn’t peer reviewed and never got published) pretends those buildings don’t also serve bing, or windows, or all the other functions microsoft is involved with. It instead assumes whole buildings at microsoft are dedicated to serving just one user of ChatGPT at a time.

It also includes the manufacture of all the serve and graphics cards equipment, even though the former was used before ChatGPT, and will be used for other things as well… and the latter is only used in training.

You can check the study out yourself here:

http://arxiv.org/pdf/2304.03271

It’s completely junk. Worthless. Even uses a click bait title, and keeps talking about “the secret water foot print” as if it’s uncovering some conspiracy. It’s bunk science.

P.S It also doesn’t seem to understand that the bulk of GPT’s training was a one time cost, paid in 2021, with one smaller update in 2023.

I wonder how long until Xitter does this sort of thing to the EU Disease Information account:

Community Note:

Covid 19 is not real.

I feel like that level of misinformation is now possible there.

I don’t think the people still on X are going to be listening to the EU disease agency account.

They should (as you say) go where the people are… Which is threads and BlueSky. Follow the crowd.

I get the feeling the BlueSky vs Threads thing will take a while to resolve.

Today’s tech business model:

First you get the power, then you extort the money.