Sorry, but the anti-AI movement is about as well informed as the anti-vax and flat-earth movement.
I am pro-AI and yet fully agree it needs to be ethically and responsibly used and regulated. Data super-centers bad, Grok bad, ChatGPT bad, etc.
I have even seen people say “LLMs can only be chatbots and all chatbots are bad!” Not understanding that this type of research, as well as weather prediction, and animal behaviour studies, all use LLMs.
And every time I’ve attempted to broach the subject, I’ve been accused of being an OpenAI fanboy, etc.
The “anti-AI movement” is just most people on earth, so of course there’s millions of stupid people them.
The pro AI people are the odd ones out, like my boss who vibe coded a task planner and then showed it to us and told us to use AI to develop our complex app faster, as if it isn’t built into every IDE nowadays and he is some genius who just needs to tell the stupid nerds how things work. Just a reeeally special bunch of people.
So you advocate for using AI to develop new drugs? Study weather patterns? Assist in physics and material sciences? Assist with coding? Are you saying pro-AI people think all AI should be embraced at every level, and replace humans?
Did you rely on AI to help you understand my comment?
The point is that calling it an “anti-AI movement”, is like saying there’s an anti shit eating movement. Yes, there are some weirdos being an exception, but apart from that it’s just humanity as a whole.
And I reject that premise entirely, which is why I asked directly whether or not you supported the usage of AI I listed. Because from what I have seen, people who reject AI do so wholesale, with no regard to how it is being used. That’s what I mean by the Anti-AI movement, not that you have a club and meetings.
I am not defending your bosses use of AI to vibecode, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what OP posted.
So are you condemning an entire technology and field of research on the grounds of the worst examples, or do you support the usage of AI in the fields I mentioned?
Since we’re rejecting premises, logic rejects this premise. And I reject the premise of me guiding you to a place where it makes sense. Just talk to Grok instead, it will give you the positive affirmation you seek.
I’ve never spoken to Grok in my life, but you seem disinterested in having an honest conversation about this while accusing me of being a shill or stupid. Precisely the tendency I named in my first message. I reject the premise that AI is pure shit, which you snuck in when comparing what I called the anti-AI movement to an anti-eating-shit movement. But you have not even tried to tell me why AI is shit, in the context of being used to improve weather prediction, and develop new drugs. I’m happy to hear why I’m wrong, but are you willing to actually talk about it, or do you just want to insult me?
pro-ai people are either already delusional, or they are corporate executives which categorically position them to be a priori delusional to ever land in such a job position.
Pro-AI folks are useless in the thinking department, so of course they want to force it into everything - to lay off folks, to cut costs on security and quality, and to generate short-term profits and then fuck off once the bubble inevitably buckles under the weight of reality.
Okay, then you don’t actually understand my position at all. Would you rather tell me what I believe, and reinforce my assertion that you’re misinformed. Or would you like to actually understand my position, and destroy the strawman that you have built?
Sorry, but the anti-AI movement is about as well informed as the anti-vax and flat-earth movement.
I am pro-AI and yet fully agree it needs to be ethically and responsibly used and regulated. Data super-centers bad, Grok bad, ChatGPT bad, etc.
I have even seen people say “LLMs can only be chatbots and all chatbots are bad!” Not understanding that this type of research, as well as weather prediction, and animal behaviour studies, all use LLMs.
And every time I’ve attempted to broach the subject, I’ve been accused of being an OpenAI fanboy, etc.
The “anti-AI movement” is just most people on earth, so of course there’s millions of stupid people them.
The pro AI people are the odd ones out, like my boss who vibe coded a task planner and then showed it to us and told us to use AI to develop our complex app faster, as if it isn’t built into every IDE nowadays and he is some genius who just needs to tell the stupid nerds how things work. Just a reeeally special bunch of people.
So you advocate for using AI to develop new drugs? Study weather patterns? Assist in physics and material sciences? Assist with coding? Are you saying pro-AI people think all AI should be embraced at every level, and replace humans?
Did you rely on AI to help you understand my comment?
The point is that calling it an “anti-AI movement”, is like saying there’s an anti shit eating movement. Yes, there are some weirdos being an exception, but apart from that it’s just humanity as a whole.
And I reject that premise entirely, which is why I asked directly whether or not you supported the usage of AI I listed. Because from what I have seen, people who reject AI do so wholesale, with no regard to how it is being used. That’s what I mean by the Anti-AI movement, not that you have a club and meetings.
I am not defending your bosses use of AI to vibecode, but that has absolutely nothing to do with what OP posted.
So are you condemning an entire technology and field of research on the grounds of the worst examples, or do you support the usage of AI in the fields I mentioned?
Since we’re rejecting premises, logic rejects this premise. And I reject the premise of me guiding you to a place where it makes sense. Just talk to Grok instead, it will give you the positive affirmation you seek.
I’ve never spoken to Grok in my life, but you seem disinterested in having an honest conversation about this while accusing me of being a shill or stupid. Precisely the tendency I named in my first message. I reject the premise that AI is pure shit, which you snuck in when comparing what I called the anti-AI movement to an anti-eating-shit movement. But you have not even tried to tell me why AI is shit, in the context of being used to improve weather prediction, and develop new drugs. I’m happy to hear why I’m wrong, but are you willing to actually talk about it, or do you just want to insult me?
pro-ai people are either already delusional, or they are corporate executives which categorically position them to be a priori delusional to ever land in such a job position.
Pro-AI folks are useless in the thinking department, so of course they want to force it into everything - to lay off folks, to cut costs on security and quality, and to generate short-term profits and then fuck off once the bubble inevitably buckles under the weight of reality.
Okay, then you don’t actually understand my position at all. Would you rather tell me what I believe, and reinforce my assertion that you’re misinformed. Or would you like to actually understand my position, and destroy the strawman that you have built?
Agreed. Not only uninformed but also irrational.