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Labour sits below 20% in the polls, Reform UK above 25%. So who cares what Labour wants, the country clearly still has a problem with gullible idiots listening to whatever Farage is spouting, arguably more so than before Brexit where UKIP was around 15%. EU should not waste time with a “Breturn” right now and instead find ways to reform so that traitors like Orban can’t block everything and to get Ukraine in ASAP.
They don’t really want it. As always they want the benefits but don’t want to participate financially and socially.
Brexit vote was 52% for leave. Intelligence is a bell curve…
Anyone with any sense knew leaving a free trade agreement with our biggest trading partners, and the ability to influence the rules on that trade and standards, was a fucking stupid idea. Unfortunately it’s easy to prey on stupid people.
Also, I’d argue that the UK and French/German culture and values are generally a lot closer than the rest of the wider world - we’re neighbours and have a lot of shared language and history.
FYI: the UK can rejoin the EU but will never get the sweetheart deal they had when they Brexited
Which I think is fair TBH. We had a sweet deal, but we fucked it up by being idiots. No reason to give us special treatment, dumb actions have consequences.
why would EU entertain Breturn? Even if they did allow this, UK would just exit again in a few years.
Because they are a big fucking economy and we’re stronger together.
Then why did they leave? I thought Brussels was stealing all the money, and if UK goes back, what will happen to the 200 million a year the NHS gets?
Buses dont lie.
You need to accept the fact that even idiots can realize they were lied to now and then. It seems like enough British idiots noticed in this case.
What on earth makes you believe that “enough British idiots noticed” they were lied to? Reform UK is at 26% in polls, was at 30% not long ago… that’s double what UKIP ever had before Brexit. Idiocy doesn’t just disappear, even the most naive should have realized that after Trump’s return.
They will acknowledge they may have been lied to about one thing while happily swallowing all the other lies they’ve been told. I didn’t say they stopped being idiots, just that in the face of overwhelming proof some of them would recognize a mistake or two.
Im sure they can. Not on the get go but over time.
IMHO, this time round, only without special treatment and only if adopting the Euro.
And they have to start driving on the right side of the road.
Ireland drives on the left also and is an eu member. Why should Britain rejoining, which messed is up first time round lead to more annoying changes for us when they rejoin. Were both islands seperate from the continent, so it shouldn’t affect things to keep the status quo.
If it has to be done, we should at least phase it in. Perhaps have professional drivers like taxis or trucks switch first and then cars next and learner drivers last. Should ease the transition.
In all seriousness, I can see a future where we move to self driving cars and they don’t have a preferred side for the wheel or controls, so at one point it would make sense to change everything over to be consistent. However, at that point, it would not make sense to have roads being used in a system designed for human use. The roads should just be used as efficiently as possible, which might mean tidal lanes etc or abandoning lanes altogether and cars just.using the space that their size needs.
Eh, idc
That would be a huge hassle for Ireland.
DO IT!
Unfortunately, it’s much harder to fix a porcelain vase than breaking it.
Kintsugi could be the metaphor to use for this caseDo you mean they should throw a lot of gold to fill in the gaps?
It might cost time and money to fix but the end result can be beautiful. Getting there can also have purpose beyond the end result.
Sure it already was nice and functional, but if it’s now broken, you either fix it or have a broken vase.
First sign. They weren’t “for” it in the first place.
What signs? Did they finally find Keir’s balls?
There is no other choice, assuming they don’t want to get even poorer
Bre-enter doesn’t really have the same ring to it…
Breturn?
breunion?
I like that!
Most of the people who voted for it are either dead or pretending that voted remain now. Political sentiment has definitely shifted towards rejoin at some point.
Are we ready for the fight yet though? Probably not. But we can definitely have closer and closer alignment to smooth the way
Avoiding the fight sounds like a bad idea. It’s great that public sentiment has shifted!
Soon I think, Trump and his mentalness is hopefully pushing more and more people to the realisation that we need to be close politically, militarily and economically to our European neighbours, rather than the Yanks.
Hopefully it’ll be something at the next election, it would be a very good way for Labour or others to set themselves against Reform.
Exactly, especially when the brexit side won by using misinformation and discrediting experts (without any facts, of course). Now people can see through their lies with their own experience.
They can’t claim the money goes the the NHS. The NHS is less funded now. They can’t claim Britain is stronger alone. They early aren’t. They can’t pretend they will make better deals elsewhere. That didn’t pan out and America is not a reliable ally. Barely an ally at this point. They can’t complain about eu decided standards, as they have now discovered that they still need to comply. They can’t complain about immigration as that didn’t stop, by necessity, it just shifted to different nationalities, usually with less recognised training and skills.
Starmer will have to ask Israeli handlers if that’s allowed
You forgot your foil hat at the pub hun
It’s a verified fact that the Israeli lobby owns his party
American handlers then?
Heh. News corporation says otherwise.
