It’s not like USA has a free public healthcare to worry about, they need to spend our money on something, might as well be weapons… right?
Remember fellow Americans, in midterm you better vote for Trump, let’s kill more people, more kids, let’s send more weapons to Middle East, what’s the worst that can happen? 10$ for barrel? Daddy says its a small price to pay…
Trump: I’m so pro-life that I rape whatever kids I can’t bomb.
He just erased
From: Bidenand put his name.We’ve gotta stop doing this chatter.
Yes, we know establishment dems are also pro israel.
Are you actively trying to help tank dem chances in the mid terms? Do you think repubs will be better?
I don’t get the desired effect of this comment other than to make people depressed and sad and not bother voting for the least bad option which will have the effect of allowing the more bad option to win. I get the “burn it down” team, but there are lots of us who aren’t there and think that’s going to be miserable for ages.
But we have hope. There’s been a surge of SocDems winning and they are making waves, getting positive press, and the republicans have shat the bed so bad that their base is noticing.
You can also help instead of harm by joining your local democratic organization, helping find better candidates to vote for and supporting them, and voting in the primaries. If you’re not doing all of that, then please be quiet.
Are you actively trying to help tank dem chances in the mid terms?
“guys, I know they support the genocide, but my team might lose if you don’t stop talking about it!”
Your chance to fix this was in 2016. Last one was in 2020.
At this point, you’re locked in.
This is the ‘burn it down’ crowd comment.
paraphrased: “Things are bad there, but we can make things bad here too so that things are just bad everywhere and people will suddenly revolt”
I’m in my local org, promoting candidates I want before we get to the national level. What have YOU done other than comments on a forum a few thousand (mostly already on your side) people will see? I’m pro Palestine and anti-genocide, but I don’t see a way to _get there_ without adding violence without aiming for grass-roots level activism. Hence the point of my comment. The republicans did it; stop fighting me and fucking help.
Can we not agree that genocide is bad, the established leadership is bad, that we can find and elect better people, and that we can use momentum to get good things done? To me, the alternative is hopeless despair and just giving up.
Is that what you’re selling? Because that seems fucked up and I’m not buying. Because Fucking Please - tell me how you are are solving the genocide right now.
Your chance to fix this
My personal choices in both those years was not one of the options. So I voted, effectively the limit of my personal power since I’m not a billionaire, for the one closest to that. I’m one of ~350M people and I have an outsized impact because I’m trying to influence others.
you’re locked in.
Guess I should stop trying to push people to get more involved… I’m sure that will fix it.
No, I never advocate despair.
Organization and preparing dual power is more important than ever. That’s why I spend a good deal of my time and money on.
without adding violence
I mean, I don’t necessarily agree with that myself, but I’m not demanding others make that choice.
I am saying that putting hopes on only electoralism is not a good idea. And particularly if you’re not going to actually challenge the current Democratic party, but continue the absolutely failed strategy of the US left in falling in line with it. 2020 should have taught anyone that.
The republicans did it; stop fighting me and fucking help
I’m quite willing to help, and I’ve been doing it for decades. Part of why I’m bothering to spend my time arguing (instead of working on plenty of other projects I do contribute to in my community) is because this is important. The tactic of lesser evil is not only not helping, it is ACTIVELY hurting the cause.
I’m sure that will fix it.
My advice to anyone in the US is to either get ou if you can - or get armed and organized. That’s what I mean by you’re locked in - the time where voting someone nice in was going to resolve this and give the empire a gentle landing is probably gone. The diesel prices are up and ain’t coming down.
Well Republicans may be actively killing Americans, cutting all research funding and solar and infrastructure, ruining trade relations, starting and continuing several wars, doing exactly as much as the dems do on Israel, just with even more support towards it, making bills to say trans people are mentally ill, pushing religion in schools, cutting education, and about 1000 other literally evil things.
BUT! dems support Israel instead of Russia. Who cares about the Iran war I guess. They also only passed 7 huge bills while having a tiny majority. Both sides.
I’ll just go ahead and admit it. Let’s lay it all out. Straight up: I won’t be voting for Biden this election and I hope no else does either.
But yeah I really wish he wasn’t running for president again…in a midterm election. Cause if he wasn’t then I’d say we could at least vent honestly a little about the heinous things he was involved in with out being brow beat about it. Bad mouthing the party in general? Yeah probably not the best thing to be doing now. But Biden? Nah fuck him.
You do realize who the puppet-president is doesn’t matter right? You’re voting for a party and for your pathetic country it means : shit vs shittier.
So grow up and vote for shit before shittier takes away voting altogether. Then worry about dragging the needle further left. US people are so dumb…
“yeah, don’t worry about the future effects - there’s always only one election!”
Remember when people were talking about how they were going to push Biden left after he was elected in 2020? Good times!
No Medicare or Medicaid, no snap, no climate protection, gas crisis, housing crisis But but… BUT!!! MONEY FOR EXPLODY SHIT AND A MASS BRIBE!!!
Fuck every triple Trumper and every non voter
Why do you think non-voters would vote for Trump alternatives? Just as likely to vote for Trump.
what’s the vitriol for?
Could they drop them off on top of the knesset?
I thought they were running out of bombs for their own “war”?
These are big-ass bombs used to blow up schools and hospitals. We have plenty, since that’s what we love doing. What we’re short on is air-defence missiles, like patriots, since we aren’t used to anyone bombing back.
You don’t need guidance systems when you’re dropping munitions indiscriminately on women and children.
TBF when the Americans use guided munitions, they tend to drop them on an awful lot of innocents.
Including a girls school
“Guided”
I can’t imagine how it must feel to be a Palestinian-American refugee in the US.
They’re literally funding the genocide of their own family by paying taxes (as are the rest of US)
This is assuming they’re not already all rounded up by ICE.
No, you still have to pay taxes. Even when you’re actively being tortured in a cage.
You pay for their bombs. The money they save allows them to have socialized healthcare.
You bust your ass to keep your family with healthcare … and your government helps another country provide THEIR citizens healthcare.
Let that shit sink in.
I mean i think the money going to bombs is the worst part, i don’t feel too bad about paying for someone else’s healthcare
The joke is that the US doesn’t help other countries. It does things to look good but genuinely helping a country build up, won’t happen, not unless there’s a military motive or a motive to still have proxy control and liquidating all those those who don’t commit.
Yep. This is the argument to make to Republicans. We pay for socialized healthcare for Israel. Ask them to explain why we can justify that while also making cuts to other international healthcare initiatives and denying healthcare to Americans.
You’re assuming they’d be capable of rational thought?
You also pay a crapton of taxes for heathcare in your own country. More than a lot of countries with socialised healthcare, in fact. You just then have to also pay even more for health insurance so you can then need to pay out of pocket for the lifesaving healthcare you’ve already paid twice for.
Oh good my tax dollars will be spent blowing up more innocent people. So much winning!
Israel was founded by USA and UK after WW2 for a reason.
Since founding, the USA has always funded their military. Not only did you buy the bombs, tanks, and so on, your parents did too, and your grandparents, and your great grandparents (if you are American, anyway). There’s a reason that every President I know of has flown out to Israel and visited the Prayer Wall and worn the little hat. It’s considered vital to our strategic interests in the area (that’s not my assessment).
… and not only Israel! If memory serves, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have also received a lot of military aid.
… and money! So much money is funneled to ME, Jordan, Lebanon, Libya, Iraq, and more.
There are few things in life that you can count on, and that’s death, taxes, and US military aid to Israel.
This is one thing that bOtH pArTiEs agree on, there’s no “anti-Israel” voting option.
That’s one thing people don’t get. Folks have been sick of Israel’s shit since I’ve been born. We stopped complaining because it does no good.
Folks yes, corporations no
So Israel’s genocidal rampage is more important than winning in Iran, and all the US military over there are sacrificing their lives for no (useful) reason. I don’t get why the right-wingers aren’t more incensed over this crap.
It’s a death cult.
It’s the mental illness epidemic of fascism
Once someone accepts hatred into their heart, they’re easy to control, and most of these people have had 20 years of Islamophobia mainlined 24/7.
They don’t see humans anymore because their brain shuts off at “Muslim”.
And it’s the exact same playbook used by every fascist. Give them someone to hate, and they’ll let you do basically anything as long as you actively hurt the people you told them to hate.
Why not both? Is there even a difference?
because christian fascism
this guy Chris Hedges
Definitely one of my heros
So Israel’s genocidal rampage is more important than winning in Iran
No, duh! They already won in Iran. Haven’t you heard Dear Leader? Iran’s utterly destroyed and the Strait is open! If you have high gas prices is because that damned Zelensky is bombing poor Russia’s oil infrastructure!
and also cutting oil demand by using solar panels is trans for some reason
winning in Iran,
lol. Even if USA “wins”, the planet loses as usual. But realistically there’s no end to this imperial terror attack. It’s been happening for centuries.
Cult + they will never be informed of this on fox and/or be told this is a great thing for national security
Can’t we just fucking send them trump? Fuck APAIC and fuck Israel. Nutsacks.
For real, make trump prime minister of israel he can fix all their problems on day one
That’s a lot of food stamps to cut so bibi the nazi can keep his genocide running.
Food stamps for the needy? Bad!
Bomb stamps for a genocidal regime? Good?
If welfare queens exist, then Israel is the ultimate welfare queen. Just sucking up money and never becoming a productive member of the world.
I’d argue they’re welfare fraudsters rather than welfare queens. They’ve got tons of money, most of the tech industry is connected to Israeli engineering. They’re just also constantly getting even more money so they don’t need to spend as much of their own money. Always best to waste someone else’s money.
I’d argue they’re welfare fraudsters rather than welfare queens.
“Welfare fraudster” is exactly what “welfare queen” means, and is why the term is so offensive.
It’s not even money they are cutting from social programs, it’s all borrowed. The ruling class are going for broke, we will be at 50 trillion debt by 2028 easy. I bet even more, all they need is a national emergency.
It’s time for the Final Solution. Then Trump and Kushner can finally develop the Jewish Dubai out of the ruins. That’s what he’s getting in exchange for full collaboration.
Your Medicaid and SNAP benefits hard at work!
I’m sending my health care! Hopefully I can die quickly and quietly to push that line just a bit higher for corporate overlords. Hail corporate!
