• korazail@eviltoast.org
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    18 hours ago

    This is the ‘burn it down’ crowd comment.

    paraphrased: “Things are bad there, but we can make things bad here too so that things are just bad everywhere and people will suddenly revolt”

    I’m in my local org, promoting candidates I want before we get to the national level. What have YOU done other than comments on a forum a few thousand (mostly already on your side) people will see? I’m pro Palestine and anti-genocide, but I don’t see a way to _get there_ without adding violence without aiming for grass-roots level activism. Hence the point of my comment. The republicans did it; stop fighting me and fucking help.


    Can we not agree that genocide is bad, the established leadership is bad, that we can find and elect better people, and that we can use momentum to get good things done? To me, the alternative is hopeless despair and just giving up.

    Is that what you’re selling? Because that seems fucked up and I’m not buying. Because Fucking Please - tell me how you are are solving the genocide right now.

    Your chance to fix this

    My personal choices in both those years was not one of the options. So I voted, effectively the limit of my personal power since I’m not a billionaire, for the one closest to that. I’m one of ~350M people and I have an outsized impact because I’m trying to influence others.

    you’re locked in.

    Guess I should stop trying to push people to get more involved… I’m sure that will fix it.

    • Matty Roses@lemmy.today
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      16 hours ago

      No, I never advocate despair.

      Organization and preparing dual power is more important than ever. That’s why I spend a good deal of my time and money on.

      without adding violence

      I mean, I don’t necessarily agree with that myself, but I’m not demanding others make that choice.

      I am saying that putting hopes on only electoralism is not a good idea. And particularly if you’re not going to actually challenge the current Democratic party, but continue the absolutely failed strategy of the US left in falling in line with it. 2020 should have taught anyone that.

      The republicans did it; stop fighting me and fucking help

      I’m quite willing to help, and I’ve been doing it for decades. Part of why I’m bothering to spend my time arguing (instead of working on plenty of other projects I do contribute to in my community) is because this is important. The tactic of lesser evil is not only not helping, it is ACTIVELY hurting the cause.

      I’m sure that will fix it.

      My advice to anyone in the US is to either get ou if you can - or get armed and organized. That’s what I mean by you’re locked in - the time where voting someone nice in was going to resolve this and give the empire a gentle landing is probably gone. The diesel prices are up and ain’t coming down.