• mlg@lemmy.world
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    17 hours ago

    This is based on tickets so I’m assuming the NYC swimming crowd isn’t on here since they actively run away from the police on the highway lol.

    Although if anyone is, that would be pretty massively embarrassing that they are basically just pay to win speeding.

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    Holy mother of Christ, how tf is this even possible:

    New York State plate #LCM8254

    Vehicle: Black 2023 Audi A6

    School Zone Speeding Tickets Received in 2024: 563

    School Zone Speeding Tickets Received in 2025 To Date: 177

    Total Fines Paid / Owed: $46,636.60 / $11,205.63

    Borough Where Most Often Speeding: 100% Brooklyn (563 violations)

    Intersection Where Most Often Speeding: Ocean Pkwy and Ocean Court (70 violations)

    Also, they mention having a limiter to prevent speeds exceeding 5mph over…I have my adaptive cruise set that way, I’d love to have that as a general option also. I haven’t gotten any tickets but I have caught myself going a bit fast at times, having an automatic limiter would be convenient.

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        Or keep your license. You get enough points in my state, and they just take your license. It’s not that high either, only like 20 points, and lots of violations are 2 or 3 points. You fuck up a few times in a 3 year period, and you’re walking.

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      1 day ago

      My vehicle has an option in it’s cruise control settings to automatically adapt to speed limit changes

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        17 hours ago

        Those have a tendency to suck ass on VW group cars, like Audi. They read the wrong signs all the time and keep changing the speed setting to incorrect numbers. Can be super annoying and I don’t blame anyone for not using it.

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        18 hours ago

        I have mine set to do that also. I really like it. I have to take several eight hour drives a year and it’s surprising how much less exhausting it is when I get back home after having a car with those adaptive cruise and lane assist features.

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          Mine is a Ford, I have it turned off because I’d probably get rear-ended if I actually adapted to the speed limit changes here (401 corridor, Ontario). But, watching the speed limit indicator in the cluster, it’s quite accurate as long as speed limit signs arent obstructed.

          I do use the adaptive cruise with lane keeping and follow distance enabled on the highway, it’s super convenient in heavy traffic.

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    1 day ago

    I drive in NYC all the time. How does anyone get going fast enough, long enough, to get a ticket? I can understand a million other violations, red lights, crosswalks, PARKING, etc, but speeding?

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      Because this data was collected from traffic cameras, which slightly limits the actions that can be taken (notably, because they can’t prove who was behind the wheel there are no points on the license). IMO what you should be asking is why has the NPD not stationed a traffic cop around each of these places specifically to catch these guys.

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        In the UK we’ve had speeding cameras all over the country for 20+ years, they get upgraded tech periodically and the majority of them capture photos and a short video clip of every offense and you get auto emailed a ticket to pay or a court summons if over a certain % over the limit. It’s the responsibility of the vehicle’s registered keeper to know who was driving their car at any point in time. If the registered keeper genuinely can’t remember who was driving their car and can’t tell from the photos and videos caught by the camera, the registered keeper is who takes the hit for the penalty points / fine

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          The registered owner does get fined, and in extreme cases like this probably should have their license revoked, but overall I do actually think it’s for the best that an automated system can’t take away your license.

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            Then take away the car or boot it until the owner goes to court and proves it was not them driving the car. If you can’t prove it you are then the default driver based on ownership. Don’t wanna take the heat don’t loan out your car.

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            In the UK this map wouldn’t be possible because the drivers responsible would be banned from driving. I feel a lot safer on the streets in the UK as a pedestrian than anywhere in the US.

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        Nope, all of this data is from school zone speed cameras, which can reliably determine speed and automatically issue tickets. Here’s last year’s report https://transalt.org/reports-list/yn29thckywv9n0qpsv4jb1ab07nryp

        The drivers of the cars listed have been ticketed for tens of thousands of dollars, those citations are public due to NYC’s open data laws, Transportation Alternatives collates and presents it in map form to demonstrate that fines alone do not make streets safe.

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          That… is what I said yes. Cameras (I said traffic because I include school zone cameras in that category) detected these cars speeding and issued a ticket to the vehicle’s owner, who in these examples is probably the driver, but because the tickets were automatically issued and the cameras can’t reliably identify the driver there are no points on the license.

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            My bad, I did misread. I thought you meant to imply that fines collected is one of the actions that can’t be taken, you did not.

            Regarding human involvement, I trust a camera a lot more than a cop. And NYC already has over 40,000 cops, it’s literally like an army. They don’t care.

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        2 days ago

        Huh… In the UK they just charge you for failing to identify the driver instead.

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    How do you not have a points system or something to penalise repeat offenders?

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      New York does have a point system. If you get 11 points within 18 months, you will get an automatic driving ban. Speed violations are worth a minimum of 3 points.

      https://dmv.ny.gov/points-and-penalties/the-new-york-state-driver-point-system

      But in order to be assessed points, you have to be caught. And many times, prolific traffic lawbreakers do things like cover up their car’s registration plates to avoid being ticketed by automatic speed cameras.

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          The post only shows the make and model of the car. They probably were caught by the cameras multiple times without a visible plate number. You can still tell it’s probably the same person if cameras in one area catch the same model of car speeding over and over again without a plate.

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        That is interesting and shows they need to go further based on this so hopefully highlighting this issue will lead there. Any car without a clear licence plate should be immediately pulled over by police and fined on the spot plus checked for insurance, licence, etc. If they don’t have insurance here in the UK, the car is impounded until someone with a driving licence and appropriate insurance collects it. If you don’t have a driving licence, im not too clear if they impound it or just leave the car there and arrest the driver. Either way, they’re not able to drive off.

        Any vehicle owner should either identify the driver at the time or take the points by default. Cameras should be changed to ones that take pictures of the drivers from the front. The technology exists!

        If a car isn’t taxed, the police can fine or more usually, the driving authority roams around randomly and if the car is on any public road, puts a boot on the car and a massive yellow sticker on the windscreen. It doesn’t happen often but enough to make people pay taxes or get called out to your neighbours. Eventually those cars are impounded too.

        The flip side to all this though is the need for infrastructure to actually slow cars down instead of just a speed limit. Only a combination of a lot of things will do anything

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          That’s the same as in New York. If you are caught by police driving a car without proper insurance, registration, or without a valid driving licence, the police can have the car towed and impounded, although, for minor issues, such as expired registration or insurance documents, they usually will just give the driver a warning to remedy the problem. However, if the driver has already received warnings for the same problem in the past, then the police will usually not extend any more leniency.

          Driving with illegal modifications such as missing registration plates, purposefully obscured plates, or suspended driving licence, is almost always an arrest and impoundment.

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            That is the same then but how do you get this number of infractions? I don’t understand. Maybe I should be asking whether we get the same issues here then if they’re falling through some gaps

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              These people are not getting caught. New Yorkers have very elaborate ways to avoid tolls and speed cameras. One popular trick is to have a lever which engages a shutter that covers their registration plate, which they engage only as they approach a speed camera or toll gantry. As soon as they are out of sight of the camera, they roll the shutter back up.

              This modification, of course, is highly illegal but it’s very difficult for the police to catch unless they stake out the camera and wait for someone to do this in front of them. Police do occasionally do that, but it’s obviously not a great use of police resources to sit there and simply hope that someone is stupid enough to do this in the sight of a police car.

              Edit: You can watch this video for further info: https://youtu.be/WcliB8uBs5w

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    Two of those are massive trucks. I’m guessing to get on this list, you have to be constantly speeding when driving. Gross.

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    Yeah, speeders suck but is no one going to comment on how dystopian this is? Like the person above me talking about the UK makes my stomach CHURN, the acceptance for the surrveilance state disgusts me.

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    all of them are incredibly boring cars. I can understand the speeding as a way of preventing highway narcosis.

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      However, the target demographic for EVs is either “person who feels some modicum of compassion and responsibility for the world in which they live” or “fascist fuck who knows that, if they went more than thirty miles per hour, you wouldn’t be able to see the giant metal monstrosity they wave about in lieu of a dick and spine”

      Neither of these demographics have incentive to speed. One of them is solely performative, and wants to be noticed for their dick-waving, while the other would not be speeding 300+ times, because they are probably a decent person.

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        Idk where you are but where I live teslas are one of the stereotypical asshole-driver cars. Theres a third demographic that wants more speed/$ and loves the torque of electric motors that let’s them zip around cars by veering into the bike lane (extreme example but I’ve seen it happen)

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          I admit the possibility, but one of the primary complaints I remember reading about was the lack of “vroomvroom” noises, which are, I would contend, an integral part of the speed demon’s enjoyment.

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      I’m really curious, because people throw “doxxing” around a lot. And this example doesn’t even include any identifiable info, just the make/model/year/color of a car.

      So… What is your definition of doxxing?

      Speeding isn’t a constitutional right like protest. And public streets aren’t private homes. Should people expect to break laws and endanger their neighbors, in public, and we’re all supposed to… pretend we don’t see them? What’s your definition here?

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      at what point does doxing (assuming we agree that’s what this is) go from definitely not okay to maybe okay

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        Probably when it becomes about protecting the public, and the shaming is to prevent harm to others. Is it okay to dox the rapist Brock Allen Turner (and sex offender registries in general)? How about doxing brownshirts in Nazi Germany (and those they’ve inspired)?

        I think this would fall under a public safety situation, and at least some of the pushback to this is rooted in how normalized traffic violence is in the US. There was a woman killed by a driver in a hit and run in my city last week, driving should be treated much more as a privilege than a right in urban areas where there are other options. I don’t love the privacy issues potentially enabling this doxing though.

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          When you are performing a licensed activity, you do not have a right to privacy. Your legal identity must necessarily be associated with the licensed actions you take.