• ∟⊔⊤∦∣≶@lemmy.nz
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      1 day ago

      China does a lot of things that are good and then counteracts them with bad, like monkey paw wishes. This is just another example

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          20 hours ago

          Some examples: China produces a huge amount of solar panels that we need for green energy. China is also building and using a ton of coal power plants, more than any other country.

          China is moving away from Microsoft which will lead to decrease in Microsoft power and hopefully lead to a bunch of work on open source projects. China is also comitting genocide on the Uyghurs.

          Etc

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            19 hours ago

            Those latter two examples seem pretty unrelated. I’m no fan of China’s government for various reasons, but them moving away from Microsoft seems like a good outcome for everyone.

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            11 hours ago

            You’re not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double… so uh no, they win there too undeniably.

            Also the trajectory is better too.

            i’m not saying china is great but that’s a nonsense point.

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              7 hours ago

              China has more coal power plants than any other country, by a huge margin. 8x more than the US. How is that nonsense?

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                6 hours ago

                For two reasons

                1. They’re manufacturing for other countries, hence the indexed emissions I recommended. Consumption adjusted emissions tells a much more fair story, it’s easy to be zero emissions if you move all manufacturing to china.
                2. Massive population.

                It’s not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.

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                  4 hours ago

                  Strange, I don’t remember mentioning emissions at all. Pretty sure I was contrasting producing green tech with dirty power plants.

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                    3 hours ago

                    …what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?

                    Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It’s misleading to say china’s power is dirty when they’re doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there’s the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.

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            19 hours ago

            So China will counteract its adoption of linux by… Committing a genocide? Something doesn’t add up here.

            If you want to criticize China then find something more relevant and credible than CIA propaganda.