Some examples: China produces a huge amount of solar panels that we need for green energy. China is also building and using a ton of coal power plants, more than any other country.
China is moving away from Microsoft which will lead to decrease in Microsoft power and hopefully lead to a bunch of work on open source projects. China is also comitting genocide on the Uyghurs.
Those latter two examples seem pretty unrelated. I’m no fan of China’s government for various reasons, but them moving away from Microsoft seems like a good outcome for everyone.
You’re not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double… so uh no, they win there too undeniably.
Also the trajectory is better too.
i’m not saying china is great but that’s a nonsense point.
They’re manufacturing for other countries, hence the indexed emissions I recommended. Consumption adjusted emissions tells a much more fair story, it’s easy to be zero emissions if you move all manufacturing to china.
Massive population.
It’s not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.
…what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?
Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It’s misleading to say china’s power is dirty when they’re doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there’s the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.
How so?
Some examples: China produces a huge amount of solar panels that we need for green energy. China is also building and using a ton of coal power plants, more than any other country.
China is moving away from Microsoft which will lead to decrease in Microsoft power and hopefully lead to a bunch of work on open source projects. China is also comitting genocide on the Uyghurs.
Etc
Those latter two examples seem pretty unrelated. I’m no fan of China’s government for various reasons, but them moving away from Microsoft seems like a good outcome for everyone.
More software freedom, less human freedom
Those are not causally related
I never said they were and that wasn’t my point?
You’re not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double… so uh no, they win there too undeniably.
Also the trajectory is better too.
i’m not saying china is great but that’s a nonsense point.
China has more coal power plants than any other country, by a huge margin. 8x more than the US. How is that nonsense?
For two reasons
It’s not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.
Strange, I don’t remember mentioning emissions at all. Pretty sure I was contrasting producing green tech with dirty power plants.
…what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?
Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It’s misleading to say china’s power is dirty when they’re doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there’s the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.
So China will counteract its adoption of linux by… Committing a genocide? Something doesn’t add up here.
If you want to criticize China then find something more relevant and credible than CIA propaganda.
Please educate yourself about international affairs before discussing them
How would one proceed into such an endeavour, in your opinion? Genuinely curious.
Go read reports from humanitarian organisations like amnesty international etc.
Oh a genocide denier. Stop drinking the coolaid. Do you deny the genocide in Palestine too?
Projection.
They seem to do that well.
No, it’s just that your argument makes no sense.