• Communist@lemmy.frozeninferno.xyz
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    18 hours ago

    You’re not using consumption adjusted emissions and are therefore accidentally saying nonsense, if you use consumption based emissions, the us is at like double… so uh no, they win there too undeniably.

    Also the trajectory is better too.

    i’m not saying china is great but that’s a nonsense point.

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      14 hours ago

      China has more coal power plants than any other country, by a huge margin. 8x more than the US. How is that nonsense?

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        13 hours ago

        For two reasons

        1. They’re manufacturing for other countries, hence the indexed emissions I recommended. Consumption adjusted emissions tells a much more fair story, it’s easy to be zero emissions if you move all manufacturing to china.
        2. Massive population.

        It’s not a valid metric. Per thing consumed china creates way less emissions.

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          11 hours ago

          Strange, I don’t remember mentioning emissions at all. Pretty sure I was contrasting producing green tech with dirty power plants.

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            10 hours ago

            …what is the problem with coal plants if not emissions?

            Anyway, my point is that most of those coal plants are essentially doing work for other countries, since other countries are importing their goods. It’s misleading to say china’s power is dirty when they’re doing practically the entire worlds manufacturing. Then there’s the population difference, the trajectory of green power, and the fact that there the coal plants are primarily used as toppers.