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    It’s a charter school aka money grab.

    It was never built to be a school. It was converted.

    You could argue that these “public” charter schools exist because of lack of investment in public schooling, but that’s wasn’t the point of the post.

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    I’m baffled that this is legal. Those kids will be breathing traffic fumes all day. Tire dust, highway litter, it looks like a literally toxic environment for kids to spend most of their day for most of the year. And that’s apart from the fairly obvious danger of having high speed traffic right next to a school.

    Edit: My son just came home from school and added noise, and that you can only go to school by car, not by bike or walking (although I understand that’s not unusual in the US).

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    I honestly thought there’s no way this is real but after seeing the comments and searching online, on the school’s own location link:

    Absolutely horrible location for a school. Innocent kids suffering from the mistakes of generations past😞

    Good gods that is miserably tragic

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    Oh yeah, Dayton is just like that. It’s got so many issues along those lines and is just generally a pretty depressing city. Great oktoberfest though.

    And Ohio in particular has a cultural issue where people don’t seem to believe change for the better is possible. A lot of people disengage rather than acknowledge that at the local level of government a fuck ton of real change can happen. Columbus should have a light rail system, whether elevated or underground, but if you talk to people there it just isn’t feasible because they tried to put in a rail system already, but it didn’t work (they couldn’t get the money because of the oil crisis in the 70s and stopped trying afterwards).

    I love Ohio in a lot of ways, it’s home, but thank fuck I’m gone

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    No disrespect to the people there, but Ohio is, without a doubt & by a wide margin, the most depressing place I’ve ever been.

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    So, apparently this used to be a day club.

    Then the freeway was built.

    THEN Miniya Academies LLC bought the property and made it a charter school.

    So, IMHO, all blame goes to Dayton SMART. (Who the fuck would want their kids to go there?)

    This school apparently has tests scores well below the Ohio average. Big surprise.

    Looking at the traffic flow, it looks like the ONLY way to get to this school is from the right lane, passing through the underpass. Elementary kids aside, this is a traffic safety nightmare. I thought Texas had bad zoning laws. Whoever approved this should have to work solely from this building for the rest of their life. Even the on/off ramp looks like a traffic nightmare.

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      There’s a pedestrian path going to the left. Which even has a connection to a sidewalk and a bus route going there. For US standards this is basically a walkable city utopia

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    No surprises here.

    Serving 94 students in grades Kindergarten-6, Dayton Smart Elementary School ranks in the bottom 50% of all schools in Ohio for overall test scores (math proficiency is bottom 50%, and reading proficiency is bottom 50%).

    The percentage of students achieving proficiency in math is 11-19% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 54%). The percentage of students achieving proficiency in reading/language arts is 40-49% (which is lower than the Ohio state average of 60%).

    The student-teacher ratio of 16:1 is lower than the Ohio state level of 17:1.

    Minority enrollment is 93% of the student body (majority Hispanic), which is higher than the Ohio state average of 35% (majority Black and Hispanic).

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    on the bright side you can just yeet your children out the window while switching highways

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    My guess is it is a converted industrial building. A good place for an HVAC shop, not so good for a kids’ elementary school.

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    From a certain perspective, these children are getting a real education on how the US operates.

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    I don’t even see the sad excuse of a playground. Is it actually there?

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      On top near the bus you have a little triangle between the building and a tree.

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    I would be most worried about the things you can’t see on pictures: air and noise pollution. I imagine graduation looks something like this:

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        Two federal appeals court judges appointed by Trump just ruled yesterday that the general public has no right to air in their homes free from tear gas, and therefore a lawsuit against ICE for heavily deploying tear gas (in a non-urgent situation no less) in a populated neighborhood has no merit for a suit.

        Think about the implications of that in a country where life, liberty And the pursuit of happiness are the founding elements. Tear gas in your kitchen by state thugs.

        I hope people are compiling a list of these fuckers so we know whose families to extradite from Argentina when this finally goes down.

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      Because I bet if you look at actual data you’ll find it’s just a poor school without a nice playground. Sad and could be fixed sure, but nobody is dying, nobody is screeching except the guy who had to go out and find the worst example they could 🤷

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        Is “nobody died” the only metric? I personally think education and developmental environment are extremely important. I want future generations to do well, to be empowered and to live healthy and fulfilling lives. To me “nobody died” isn’t good enough. In this particular case the noise and air pollution from the highway combined with the lack of green space is probably detrimental to the physical and mental health of the children. It demonstrates a concerning lack of interest in the wellbeing of future generations.

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          As a thinking-out-loud digression, there was that movie several years ago, The Corporation, which took the idea of corporate personhood a step further, and psychoanalyzed them. (Spoiler: Corporations are extreme sociopaths.) I’ve talked to my brother, the professional therapist, about applying the same lens to cultures, and we agree: The United States is a deeply traumatized culture.

          There are probably lots of reasons for it (settled by unpleasant weirdos who were kicked out of Europe, founded on genocide, slavery, a civil war, waves of immigrants who fled traumas in their home countries, etc.), but whatever the cause, this sort of shut-up-and-deal-with-it attitude that we don’t deserve a better physical environment feels like a trauma response at a societal level. (Also, see: The “I fear other people and don’t want to be near them” criticism of public transit.)

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        Your comment made me research your comment history, and it comes up to me as a miserable series of negative wording that contributes nothing of value or interest to the communities.

        I don’t want and need such sentiment, and that’s the reason why I will block you after sending this comment. Blocking users in my eyes is a very important feature of the Fediverse and makes it palpable and nice. Other big platforms shove bullshit down your throat and are regulated top down - the Fediverse is different. I love it.

        I wish you all the best and hope your life or at least your sentiment improves in the future. Have fun.

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          Oh no, did I ruin the circle jerk? How many deaths at this school??!??? Is is really a death trap?

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            Great point, if they’re poor its fine because poor children don’t deserve happiness. The kids who get hit by cars or get sick from air pollution are statistically insignificant. It almost definitely won’t happen, and if it does, it doesn’t matter so long as they live to become workers and buy Amazon items, which is most important.

            /s

            Edit: like the person you responded to, I’m also blocking you now. They stated my reasons very well, and more kindly than I would.

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      The US definitely has concentrated more wealth into the nation post-WWII than other nations. Of course, it’s not evenly distributed, which is basically a massive problem and leading to the destruction of the Republic itself by the wealthy few.

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          There are reasons the US can afford this much dept. National dept has many different implications compared to private dept. The median US citizen doesnt benefit too much from the enormous GDP per capita because of unequal wealth distribution tho. The absolute financial US wealth is the highest-ranked worldwide and the relative (per capita) one is still very high despite the high dept.

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            IMO a nation is only so wealthy as its median citizen or something else mathematically correct. Mean wealth is just a weird thing to go by.

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              “Which of these two buckets has more sand?”

              “Well, the first bucket is half full, but it’s all on one side. The second bucket is only a third full, but it’s level. Obviously, the second bucket is more full.”

              You’re choosing to use words differently than they commonly are. Without any qualifiers, we use “wealth” to refer to financial wealth. Greece isn’t the wealthiest nation in the world, but their cultural wealth is significant. Likewise, mean wealth is useful for knowing how much…wealth a nation has. When compared to quality of life or median wealth, you can use it to identify issues the country needs to deal with. You just have to remember that just like wealth doesn’t mean “distribution of wealth”, it also doesn’t mean “good”.

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                Sure, much like anything in this world, it depends. In this case it depends on what you’re trying to compare, I suppose. 👍

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                  Well, given the original comment was about how much wealth is available in the nation and yet this shitty location was still used for a school, I think it’s a good one. The point is to show the flaw in how that money is being distributed.

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              Yes true i also perfer to compare the median wealth (which is still surprisingly high in the US). And even a high median wealth doesnt help you when you become homeless because of the horrible social security

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                surprisingly high in the US

                Yeah looking into numbers regarding this is quite disturbing. Lots of wealth but very high inequality. One of the most unequal countries in the world.

                I’m proud to live in a country with low inequality, but it’s still important to watch out for politics that can lead to higher inequality. 🔍

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    Yeah, but think of the revenue the town is generating by ticketing people for speeding in a school zone. That shows they care. /s