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Jennings later accused Piker of “calling for Black voters to be lynched” and referred to what he called “the Piker plan of returning our country to lynchings.”
The original footage came from an October 2024 Twitch broadcast in which Piker was reacting to a debate between two Black political commentators — one liberal and one conservative. After the conservative participant criticized “woke DAs,” Piker sarcastically suggested the commentator wanted to return to an era of racial discrimination and lynchings, according to the complaint.
“He said, ‘We need more Klansmen, OK? Can we go back to a better time when lynchings were happening?’” Piker said during the stream in reaction to the commentator’s argument.
Piker’s attorneys argue that the edited video removed the words “He said,” along with his laughter and surrounding commentary, to intentionally make it appear as though Piker was expressing his own beliefs rather than mocking someone else’s.
The dispute emerged amid the Michigan Senate race, where the edited video was circulated to criticize progressive Democratic candidate Abdul El-Sayed over his association with Piker.
Seems like Scott Jennings is going to get nailed to the wall for that, it’s pretty indefensible.
Or, I should say, CNN will. Or, I should say, Skydance will. Or, I should say, David Ellison will. Or, I should say, Larry Ellison('s pocketbook) will.
He better settle and it’ll cost him
What I have learned about this hasan kid I’ve liked.
And I’m feeling strong that my read on him is that under no circumstance is he gonna settle for a sum that is less than actual, meaningful, blood.
Or let Scott chicken out and pay him the full $72mil
Looks like Piker is getting a new gamer chair and a home gym made entirely out of gold. Ethically sourced, obviously.
That doesn’t actually sound a ton different than literally any attack ad airing for any candidate at the moment.
If hope both parties lose this one, with a long trial for a one dollar verdict.
If hope both parties lose this one
You genuinely have no idea how courts work
You’re not just stupid, you’re ugly
The clip in question is outrageous. Jennings should have his ass handed to him over this.
Seriously why does anyone give a shit about a twitch streamer?
I don’t care about him personally, but the story is about a bad faith news commentator removing the “he said” nesting from a quote to make it sound like he was claiming precisely the viewpoint that he was criticizing. And that shit shouldn’t fly.
Also they’re trying to run that story to smear not only him but also a progressive political candidate currently running a tight race. So yeah we should absolutely be calling it out.
Like I don’t have any particular interest, love or hate for Piker. I haven’t ever watched more than a few clips of him. But he does matter, both as a person and a political influencer. And your question is bullshit elitism. Saying “Why does anyone give a shit about [blank]?” and then filling that blank with any type of person you find frivolous, not for the content of their character or their opinions voiced, but for something like their chosen job or hobby, is fucking dumb. Particularly in relation to a politically active person in what is ostensibly a democracy. Everyone matters in a democracy. That is the actual point.
You may as well have said, “Why does anyone give a shit about a janitor?” Well if that janitor has a lot of political influence, good or bad, you should give a shit. What the fuck does it matter if he is a janitor, a twitch streamer, or any other role? If they are talking and people are listening and it is effecting people’s political insights and mindset and vote, it doesn’t matter what they do for work or how they got their audience. It matters that others are listening. And it also matters that he is the object of political ire from his ideological opponents. No matter how dumb any of it is, these things have real tangible effects on our world. You don’t have to pay him any mind or grant his opinions any credence or like him or hate him or feel anything at all about him to acknowledge that he objectively does matter to the political sphere.
A decade ago, people where dismissive of Trump because he was (and is) a fucking caricature of a wealthy womanizing narcissist with a big mouth. “Who gives a shit about some rich real-estate playboy?”, one might have asked. But his big mouth runs and millions of voters eat up every word. Do you think Trump’s bullshit matters now?
Maggot is furious because he’s a centrist shill finally coming to terms with the fact that the progressives aren’t just right, they’re far more popular than the neoliberal coalition.
Maggot is mad that leftists get things done without bending to fascists.
Lets see CrimesLegalNow furious card.
Hassan is not a lefty.
Janitors aren’t typically known for their narcissism like twitch streamers are.
Whenever you are using what someone is “known for’ as your criticism, you lose legitimacy to your argument. See, Scott Jennings intentionally tried to make Piker “known for” lynchings. The “known for” something critique is a Trump style attack…” Everybody is talking about how Obama was born in Africa. Sounds like we shouldn’t trust that guy.". It’s lazy and malicious.
If you want to criticize Piker, do so for demonstrable conduct. All you did instead was signal to me your argument is bs.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
You don’t have to believe it I’m not trying to change your mind.
He forms parasocial relationships with people for money like all twitch streamers or other streamers.
The para social relationship is you malding over someone who doesn’t know you exist.
and clowns do pratfalls to entertain people, or apparently, belittle people on lemmy to further their agenda.
You’re calling me a clown so I think you’re the only one belittling people in this conversation.
But by all means continue to do so if it makes you feel better.
only if you own the clause,
for someone who asks why we should even consider him important, you are very consistent in your attempt at dismissing him as a person. probably because he it’s important, and his arguments are hard to assail.
So you are using “twitch streamer” as shorthand for “narcissist” then? So stack on a weird prejudice and stereotyping to your elitism. And everything else I said still stands. Even if we granted your prejudice, “since when did narcissism in politics ever effect anyone, right? Who gives a shit about narcissists?” … 🤨
You might want to try reading my comment instead of whatever the fuck you just did there.
It is so weird that you are pretending he’s just some random nobody, but then seem to get really defensive about his politics and the amount of clout he seems to have with said politics.
Like, you don’t have to post here if you don’t really care about him. But, the fact that you keep posting seems to imply that you absolutely do care about him. Idk, man, that combined with your stance of how great centrism is, it looks like you want to look nonchalant about him without having to defend why you don’t like him (or more likely, his politics.)
I dig Maggoty but yeah, it’s super weird. Extremely Reddit-brained take, like when a beloved rapper or something dies, coming in to say “I don’t know who that is”
Like okay that’s cool, you’re on the internet and can find out easily.
I have no interest in US politics or streamers, but I recognize this is way bigger than “stream guy talk about politic” at this point. Cumfart is being foolish thinking “just a streamer” isn’t a big deal anymore. We’re not far from a president who was a streamer, whether we like it or don’t wanna live on this planet anymore.
Where do I get defensive about his politics besides you just making that up now?
This entire thread, you’re butthurt about it.
I did. It was a quick read. You said unlike janitors, twitch streamers are known for often being narcissists… But please tell me what other nugget of wisdom I missed.
the same reason anyone gives a shit about any celebrity, viewers are influence, friend.
Now go forth, and say this no more. The more you know
Twitch streamers aren’t celebrities and the only reason he’s even relevant is because the republicans decided he is the devil and a liability for democrats.
Trying to suggest that streamers aren’t influential in current year requires you to either live under a rock or be above the age of 60. It’s like trying to suggest that YouTubers aren’t influential in 2010.
Streamers are influential. Having 40k concurrent viewers is insane, and the actual metrics behind just how insane it is ends up being pretty difficult to parse without having someone else do the analytics for you.
Last time I checked the average time a viewer actually stays in a stream ends up being a few minutes. That also heavily depends on the streamer and what kind of content they produce. Hasan pulling tens of thousands of concurrent viewers is nuts and places him in the upper echelons of the top 1% of streamers on twitch.
It’s like trying to say that Assmoldbald isn’t influential. You are just wrong, even if you hate having to admit it.
Edit: I should say, I think Hasan is peak dudebro energy and routinely shoves his foot in his mouth. That being said, the man is influential - for better or worse.
Defending sone dude you’ve never met like he’s your best friend is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
Getting angry at some dude you’ve never met like he killed your family is the definition of a parasocial relationship.
If you want to go down that route so is this unhealthy amount of anger about them in the news.
Especially when for such a valid reason that also could cause issues for overall terrible human being Scott Jennings
Inb4 you’re a Destiny viewer
Edit: ‘peak dudebro energy… shoves his foot in his mouth’ these things aren’t compliments. I’d be more worried about aligning my messaging with the fascists, which you’re 100% doing.
What the fuck is a destiny viewer?
I’m going to treat you as if you’re not being
coydishonest, at which point - you’re better off not knowing. If you want to know more, go watch Professor Dave’s videos on him.That being said, fascists are bad. Don’t do their job for them. If you want to tilt at windmills you’re free to do so, don’t be surprised when you get slapped in the face for it.
Define “celebrity.” I certainly would consider many twitch streamers celebrities and public figures, even if I don’t care about or watch them. Many of these streams pull more viewers than mainstream media.
The democrats have also decided he’s the devil and a liability. When he’s got both factions upset, he’s gotta be doing something right.
Narcissists fixate on people. The right is full of those, so this happens. Happened with Clinton, AOC, now Piker.
Left too.
They fixated on Clinton, Sanders and Harris.
Yep
Because he’s providing real political and moral leadership while the “leadership” internal to the Democratic party are cuckold failures.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries and now general elections. As people have recognized the failures of both centrism and bipartisanship, explicitly socialist views expressed through a relatable, non academic, non corporate views have real purchase. Expect them to continue to grow into a household name. You better get comfortable in this new reality.
Hasan backed candidates have basically wiped the floor throughout both the Democratic primaries
Which is one reason dear cumfart (this comment can’t get removed for using a username right?) is so upset and attempting to deflect from a very important slander lawsuit.
Will be amazing to see Jennings either have to do an apology or see how low he goes to try and get out of it
Hasan isn’t doing anything important he’s literally just a twitch streamer.
He actually agrees with you, he’s just a twitch streamer who does political commentary and occasional activism when it aligns with his ideology. He would happily stay in his lane. But the democrats and republicans have turned him into a big deal and gone out of their way to slander him.
Did he switch to mostly political stuff now? Last I heard he was a “reaction” streamer that mostly stole others content.
He’s been a political commentator even before he became a streamer. He probably still reacts to content on the account that political commentary largely depends on reacting to interviews, news clips, articles etc. I’m sure he probably does non-political reactions, such as the recent H3H3 implosion, but as with political commentary he adds a lot of commentary ontop the content. There was even a viral clip of casuallyexplained calling out Hasan for constantly pausing videos to add his own commentary.
The idea that he mostly stole content from others is one of the multitude of lies his haters have told over the years. He’s a far cry from the react streamers who consume content in its entirety and add only “uh-uh, yeah, right.”
All I’ve seen from him is watching a video and offering nothing but the occasional laugh, then rushing to stop it before any self promotion from the creator can play.
He has something like over 20 000 hours streamed. I’m sure you’re going to run into that as well, but if that’s all you’ve ever seen… I guess you must be the worlds unluckiest viewer to always find him doing just that.
I mean you can literally open his stream right at this very moment, he’s not just sitting there “reacting” like a houseplant. He’s not even watching a video others made.
Weird that you think interviewing, fundraising, and getting out volunteers to doorknock/phonebank for DSA endorsed candidates nationwide isn’t anything important
Trump isn’t doing anything he’s literally just a face from TV
It’s hard having political discussions when this is the level of understanding people have.
The irony…
They won’t understand it though
What do you agree the president of the us doesn’t make policy?
I like you, you’re a great poster here, but it’s wild to pretend that “just a steamer” means they’re unimportant nowadays. We’re not far from a streamer president in CURRENT YEAR, the amount of influence is incredible. I don’t like that fact, but hey, I gotta adapt.
It’s basically impossible to have a streamer president in 2026.
Maybe the democrats could have one in 2028 but why compete with the reality star republicans in a race to the bottom?
I think a race to the bottom is the only way in the US… shit, anything is better than the opposition they try to throw at the party of evil lawl
I wasn’t saying streamer president immediately, but we’re for sure on track for streamer president by 2040. People love entertainer presidents (I mean…) and “streamer” or “YouTuber” is far more recognized as a parasocial-able figure to latch onto than “traditional media guy” at this point.
Edit: oh! I meant “In CURRENT YEAR we’re not far from a streamer president” rather than “we will have one right now”—I’m sorry for my bad verbiage in my other comment!
He’s suing Scott Jennings. That’s pretty important in my book.
Who is Scott Jennings? Another podcaster?
Scott Jennings is an American conservative political strategist, commentator and writer. During the George W. Bush administration, Jennings was appointed special assistant to the president and deputy director of political affairs in February 2006.
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Except maybe for Destiny, who created him.
You’re giving way too much credit to that sexual extortionist.
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It’s one small part of Hasan’s trajectory. You’re giving too much credit to Destiny.
He literally canvases and makes appearances at rallies for the candidates he’s supporting. Maybe do more research than none at all next time?
Also you seem to be ignoring the answer to this question you were already given, deliberately i have to imagine. Hasan gets views, gets attention. Views and attention are power, they’re influence. If Hasan has 100k viewers that’s 100k potential votes for a candidate.
What are you not understanding about that? It seems really straightforward that views and influence = power.
I’m not going to spend time researching a twitch streamer dude.
I don’t know who he is.
But if I do know who he is, he’s not very famous.
But if he is famous, he’s not doing anything newsworthy.
But if he is doing something newsworthy, it’s not very important.
But if he is doing something important, I didn’t do any research about him.Lots of words to put in my mouth.
My first comment was ‘who gives a shit about a twitch streamer’ so obviously I know a bit about him I’ve just never wasted time in my life watch any twitch streamer.
And I’m definitely not going to research them either.
Sorry, I forgot the last line:
And if I didn’t do any research, it’s because i already know I’m right and everyone else is wrong.
That’s your opinion mang thats fine. And just like the failure of the Biden administration to do anything to stop a genocide , you can choose to see or not see whatever you like.
Hasan is a political commentator who reads and responds to the news outloud. And they do it in a way which most people under the age of 40 would do it, in a mocking, casual sometimes cynical view. And people can relate to that; they aren’t just reenforcing establishment views.
Here’s what its going to come down to: Hasan picked the winners. The canddiates they endorsed and supported, they made it through their primaries, and after making it through the primaries, they are winning their elections. They are more ideologically similar to Hasan and most of the people here, than you or other centrist/ rightwing politics. But more importantly, they picked winners, and supported them early when early support makes the difference. That makes them a king maker.
Lemmy hates centrists but we’re a better representation of the majority of the voters.
How’s the genocides doing now?
I know Biden supported Ukraine much more and I’m also thinking there was a reason why that cunt Netanyahu wanted Biden gone and Trump in.
I mean no you are not. Centrism has lost every election where its been tried. You don’t represent anyone. Socialism/ Social Democracy is far more popular with voters.
How’s the genocides doing now?
Its your genocide bruh, you own it, so you tell me.
Registered voters are abandoning bOtH pArTiEs, now down to 28% each; independents are up to 44% of voters. That’s gone up like 5% since Biden was in office, mang
Pew research. You better call them and tell them that you disagree so that they can fix it!
Independents are not centrists. That’s not how this works. Its not how any of this works.
It’s worked well when the candidates hasn’t been women because America, the democrats and leftists seem to have a big problem with women in power.
Just like how supporting a genocide handed the election to fascists, your blinders say more about you than they do about reality.
I dislike Harris for many, many reasons and being a woman is not one of them.
He’s more important than you, you’re literally just a Lemmy poster, come on now
I don’t pretend to be anything but so I don’t know what that has to do with anything.
Sue Scott Jennings already maggoty. Shit or get off the pot.
He hasn’t defamed me.
Has that ever stopped you before?
Whether we agree with him or not (I wish he was more of a revolutionary than a reformist), he is wielding a large amount of influence on the shifting political landscape of the US Empire.
Because they want to believe he is not a piece of shit.
And hope.
And boy, are there bad news about that.
i see “.de” and hope you’ll take this kindly.
news is never pluralized. so even if you have multiple news stories, the stories can be plural, but the news is always singular.
“And boy, is there bad news about that.”
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Because being smart is not acceptable in America.
Piker has a degree in communications and political sci from Rutgers. What do you got?
I have a Masters from UCLA lmao.
Then you should be able to deduce that Americans listening to someone educated on these topics isn’t proof that being smart is not acceptable in America.
It’s more of a broad truism than an attack on Piker per se. The fact is, we have a culture that rewards stupidity.
I agree generally with you, this just isn’t relevant to this particular conversation.
I mean, for a smart guy - Hasan has said some really stupid shit in the past. That’s what gets views though.
