• velma@sh.itjust.works
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    14 hours ago

    Then you should be able to deduce that Americans listening to someone educated on these topics isn’t proof that being smart is not acceptable in America.

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      14 hours ago

      It’s more of a broad truism than an attack on Piker per se. The fact is, we have a culture that rewards stupidity.

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        14 hours ago

        I agree generally with you, this just isn’t relevant to this particular conversation.

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          14 hours ago

          I mean, for a smart guy - Hasan has said some really stupid shit in the past. That’s what gets views though.

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              11 hours ago

              Nothing as stupid what he’s said about 9/11. That’s a pretty low bar though.

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                The only reason what Hasan said about 9/11 could be considered stupid is because it doesn’t paint the full picture. Much like the term ‘defund the police’ doesn’t mean ‘completely eradicate police departments across the U.S.’, saying ‘America deserved 9/11’ does not mean ‘all the innocent (powerless) people killed in the attack or as a result of the attack deserved it’.

                You can accuse him of being tactless, because he is - for someone with a degree in polysci and communications you’d think he’d conjure up a better way to phrase it. Thing is, he’s not wrong.

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                  10 hours ago

                  Much like the term ‘defund the police’ doesn’t mean ‘completely eradicate police departments across the U.S.’,

                  I have a problem with this kind of double speak - and the average apolitical person won’t give a shit about the intended meaning either. Especially since we absolutely should be talking about how to safely eradicate police departments. We live in a police state that the founding fathers, for all their faults, would absolutely not consider a free society. Police departments as an institution is an aberration in human history. They have not always existed in society, nor will they always exist.

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                    9 hours ago

                    See I disagree, what we should be doing is reforming the police - funding alternative means of intervention with the purpose of reducing the amount of violent crime through the means of de-escalatory strategies.

                    The founding fathers were slavers. Police in large part were started as a result of Southern states creating units to police slaves, or rather escaped slaves and the rare black person that gained freedom “legitimately”. They’d have no problem with the idea of police as they are.

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            14 hours ago

            It’s also just like, gonna come with the territory of streaming. Streaming is being live for hours on end on a regular basis, I’d have my foot in my mouth all the time if I were doing that. Hell I say stupid shit plenty without that