A nearby school has just finished construction and is planning to open next week. However, it’s already been struck multiple times by bullets escaping a shooting range a mile or so away. They’ve released notices telling people to avoid one side of the building due to the stray bullets and adjusted activities to the late evening when the range is closed.
After asking the range to improve it’s quality so that this doesn’t happen, the shooting range apparently told them to pound sand. Now there’s a big lawsuit trying to force this shooting range to actually stop the bullets being fired so they don’t kill children because they refuse to do anything.
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I first thought this was an onion article.
The new school doesn’t show up on Google maps yet, but here is the distance between the range and school site.
Damn yeah thats just directly north downrange lol
You got a link to a story or something?
Article instead of an anecdote?
That’s pretty fucked up. I’ve been to a shooting range in my state and it I think they designed it so it’s impossible for bullets to escape. I mean, maybe if you wanted to shoot through the roof you could manage it.
Outdoor range. Berm stop. Sounds like they just need to raise the berm height and kick morons off the range who shoot too high.
More put an upper stop on outdoor ranges as well stop high shots don’t matter. The Swiss have a range that’s designed so safe they’re approved to shoot across and above an active highway.
If it were a noise complaint I’m with the range because they existed before the school. That said if it’s hitting the school it means your range is profoundly unsafe that shit wouldn’t fly at a residential range let alone a commercial one and at that point I’m with the school even if it was dumb to choose a spot across from a gunrange.
Kinda hard to prove if someone shoots high unless they do it constantly. I think the better option is the range paying for a physical barrier, essentially creating a berm in between the school and the range but much much closer to the school.
Nah, fuck that, the bullets need to come to a full stop inside the shooting range. You wanna run a business on giving people a place to shoot? It’s your responsibility to make sure nobody outside the range is getting shot.
Source?
While nothing is too crazy to be true these days, this sounds wild even for God’s Own Country™.
Can you not simply shoot into the shooting range to stop all the shooting out?
I really have a hard time believing this even just from a ballistics standpoint, bullets are not lasers and from a mile (ish) away there is absolutely no way they could be hitting unless they were aiming specifically for it. Bullets travel in a massive parabola so the shooter would need to be aiming so far above any kind of target that this is incredibly unlikely
Regardless can we all fucking agree that there should not be a shooting range within a mile of a school?
It isnt within a mile of the school if you look it up on the map.
Instead how about not within a 1mile range AND nothing should be downrange of one for well over 10miles unless properly blocked by a catch wall, or massive mount of dirt or something.
It’s likely that the trajectory is common for bullets that just barely go over the berm. It sounds like an incredible coincidence of math.
Yeah, shots hitting the berm just right can deflect like that, and there’s also situations where bullets can ricochet or get deflected during normal shooting in a manner that could cause them to travel that far.
If it’s happening with any regularity though, I would say there’s either a design issue with the range, or the people there are assholes
I would hazard a guess that yes, the range needs to raise the berm height and ban shooters who regularly shoot over it.
The .338 Lapua is a round designed for long distance shooting and at a mile its bullet drop is 32 yards or 96 feet. That’s almost like a raindrop in a windstorm, and it means you’d have to aim so absurdly high over a target it would be intentional. There is no just slipping over the berm, unless the berm is within a few hundred feet of the school.
What about 9mm (most common)?
And lots of shooters are TERRIBLE.
And with FRTs becoming more common, bad shooters are becoming even worse shots. (The rapid firing walks the impact of successive shots higher)
I wouldn’t be concerned about a handgun cartridge vs. a long range sniper cartridge with roughly 10x the muzzle energy.
I want to say smaller bullets tend to suffer more from drag and so can’t go as far. It’s not that drag is heavier, but that it’s heavier in proportion to the mass of the bullet.
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Gun owners are, by definition, myopic and irresponsible. They like to do pranks, like celebratory gunfire. This kind of gunfire kills people all the time. You’re more likely to die catching a bullet this way, than people who get shot on purpose. That’s because the bullet moving downward is likely to strike the head, shoulders, or (if you’re lucky) feet.
Bullets like this are fatal even if fired miles away and slowed to terminal velocity. The average gun owner may not realize that bullets are purposefully designed to move through air quite efficiently and do damage to anything they strike.
Stray bullets fired from long distances are absolutely fatal.
