It “works” the same way you can eat fast food to prevent starvation since you do get calories from it. But you essentially do damage to yourself long term and slowly kill yourself.

In moderation it can work, but just like fast food, it’s always better to eat less, ideally 0 amount.

It might be worth it if you don’t have any other option, but not having any other option is a bigger failing on overall planning.

If you consume lots of it then you do tolerate it more than those who abstain themselves; whom totally feel sick when they consume any of it.

At the end of the day, it would never be considered quality or good, but just like fast food, our cooperate overlords will try to get us to use it as much as possible.

I just hope this means that similarly, those who respect their mind/body can easily live their life and avoid it.

The only difference I can think of is that fast food is profitable, which is pretty hilarious.

So, back to the title, imagine living in a world where a significant chunk of the population think McDonald’s is somehow better than home cooked meals. That’s where we are at atm.

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    who abstain themselves; whom totally feel sick when they consume it

    Do people feel sick from eating fast food? Depending on how you define it I only eat fast food once every couple months on road trips since I’m vegetarian and the options are usually shit outside of Taco Bell, but cyclospora jokes aside I’ve never felt sick from those occasions.

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    I love the fast food comparison, because just like fast food, people know deep down it’s harmful, but they just turn away and pretend they don’t know because they just want to be lazy and stupid and feed that deficiency at every opportunity.

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    This is the most strange comparison I’ve read in a while. I kind of like it, I guess?

    “But you essentially do damage to yourself long term and slowly kill yourself.”

    That’s essentially being alive.

    “I just hope this means that similarly, those who respect their mind/body can easily live their life and avoid it.”

    Don’t care, this piece of shit body has so many issues and food allergies that I can’t be bothered.

    Generative AI is more like the idiot rolling coal on a cyclist then wondering why no one cheers them on because at the end of the day you burned through your cash and made the world a shittier place.

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    Good analogy. I also think fast food is ok to have. And I also think AI is ok to have. Hear me out. I’ll continue the analogy.

    When fast food is bad is when it creates food deserts, when it is the only affordable food (not anymore but nothing is) for massive parts of the population, when it is being pushed for profit incentive that contradics the interest of a healthy society. It is less helpful to look at an individual fast food restaurant than it is to look at the health outcomes of a neighborhood who’s main form of food consumption is through access to fast food.

    The main issue with AI is similar to the issues with fast food. It is fundamentally a systemic issue.

    If we used AI to get our work done faster, work less hours/days, and had more vacation time. If we dropped all of the countless AI uses that are absolutely brain rotting and counterproductive we could see benefits. We could have more time to take up physical or intellectual hobbies.

    But we have no control over that in our society. We fundamentally do not have freedom if we do not live in a society that is able to democratically decide how AI is applied and who benefits. And it’s not just with AI. It’s with fossil fuels. It’s with infrastructure. It’s with healthcare. We do not have Democratic control of these fundamental parts of our lives.

    Right now, we just have a bunch of rich tech oligarchs deciding that setting the planet on fire to monopolize the totality of human knowledge, destroy the internet, destroy our environment and our planet. Oh, and we gotta do it because “China is gonna do it first”.

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    It’s also like commissioning some other entity to do stuff. People will say, “I made an app…”, or " I made an image." When in reality they didn’t?! All they did is pay their $20 subscription fee or whatever, and most people just accept whatever the AI got for them. And it’s not like the chatbot outputs some exquisit 5 michelin star cuisine. At this point in time you’re certainly served McDonald’s.

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      Yeah it’s like restaurants just resorting to switching the menu to McDonald’s and hoping it would just work the same.

      To be fair, most restaurants now get their food from the same supplier, which isn’t as low quality as McDonald’s but they have resorted to cheaper outsourcing.

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        Sure. I mean all of this is a trade-off. There’s reasons to eat McDonald’s. Or to use Hollandaise Sauce premade out of a 20l bucket. Or to add glycerol to the American cookies to make them soft and shelf-stable. It’s not necessarily a great achievement though?! I enjoy variety in food. Also quite like if the sauce doesn’t taste 100% the same in each restaurant because it is the very same one. We still have restaurants where I can hear the noises from the kitchen and someone is tenderizing meat, or whisking eggs.

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          Yes, there are advantages to eating McDonald’s at certain times, but it’s something you resort to, not something you aspire to.

          Cheaper options with lower quality have always existed, the difference this time is that they want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to sell you the cheaper, lower quality option as premium quality.

          Possibly because it actually costs so much to make.

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            And with how Anthropic partners up with the Linux Kernel and Mozilla and granted them preview access to Mythos… Seems to me like they don’t just want to sell food, but also sell the stomach meds to keep it in 😂

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    It is fast-food that works like the replicator in Star Trek: you can virtually ask it to spit out anything you like… but the taste won’t be there (and the nutritional, health and environmental properties will be the ones of fast-food).

    Also by using it you seem to quickly lose capacity to discern good from bad ingredients, and the ability to even cook…

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    You seem to be assuming that the food someone would make and eat at home is automatically healthier than fast food. I wouldn’t say that’s a given. The recipes that people show on social media are super fancy and using all sorts of expensive ingredients and cooking tools. It’s basically just another form of elitism, but now it’s rich people judging people for what food they can eat and where they get it.

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      It’s honestly very hard to make a home cooked meal that isn’t healthier than fast food. Any pasta with sauce, mac and cheese, rice and beans, random salad will be miles better for you than fast food.

      I’m also confused by your social media statement. Like, yeah, sure, people that post food do it because what they are posting is in some ways out of the ordinary… that doesn’t mean most people’s cooking is like that

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        It’s not harder if you’re using fresh ingredients however a frozen lasagna or chicken tenders in the air fryer are not always better. There are a lot of processed food options that are not exactly the beacon of healthy eating.

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      Veggies, beans and so on are so cheap though. It’s absolutely possible to make cheap, healthy and delicious food at home. Just lay off the impossible burgers and the like. The ready made stuff is expensive as hell.

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        It really depends. Some things certainly are inexpensive, like canned black beans, or especially some bags of frozen food. But if I want a burger then a McDonald’s McDouble is a cheaper option, especially with the add-on’s I can get in the app (McChicken).

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      That’s a good point. Just because you make food at home doesn’t mean it’s good. Similarly, just paying someone for work doesn’t mean it would be automatically better than AI.

      But making food at home is the correct way, and if you suck at it, the solution is to get better, not to resort to fast food permanently.

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      The food they make at home could be better than fast food, there is always potential there. Fast food will always be fast food.

      I think a better take on the fast food comparison is that the user of AI didn’t make the thing they vibe coded, they bought it. Like buying fast food or a premade dinner.

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      It’s embarrassing that people don’t realize that it’s not sustainable. And that relying on AI is like saying I can just eat fast food from now on.

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        Sustainability is long-term thinking. People affected by short term bias aren’t thinking about long-term at all.

        Fast food is the perfect example. People living in a drought only care about the next meal, not working to grow crops that may never produce food. Environmental stress feels like a drought to the brain.