cross-posted from: https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/post/65174189
Florida public schools will force students to take a Heritage Foundation-backed class on the “evils of communism.”
Had a friend’s son tell me, very insistently, that Kim Jong Un convinced everyone in his county that he doesn’t poop. Also, that he’s planning to nuke South Korea, and we need to do something to stop him.
This was a kid with very liberal parents going to a very liberal middle school.
Red Scare shit is already everywhere. But I guess we’ve got to keep cranking the hysteria up to 11
i heard shit like this in school too. but it wasn’t from teachers or adults, just other idiot kids and i wasn’t dumb enough to take it as a definite truth, though i did consider it plausible.
Ooohhh will this be like the DARE program and actually end up converting students to support communism??
I know I learned a LOT about recreational drugs from school <3
Alongside “Pedo Worship 101”?
That’s the theology class
oh man. I so want to teach that class.
These people don’t see the evils of indoctrination? Teach history. Teach cause and effect and show the results. Then let people decide for themselves. This dumbing people down and telling them what to think isn’t helping anyone at all.
Americans think it’s normal to pledge allegiance to a flag in school, they thank people for “their service” Indoctrination has been happening the whole time and it works.
Then let people decide for themselves.
The more you learn about history, the more you realize you don’t know. Very difficult to “just teach history” when you’re talking about an unfathomable number of people making an unfathomable number of decisions with unclear cause and effect.
What you learn in school is a very high level and narrow reading of events, largely informed by documents and transcriptions preserved by the wealthiest people in a region.
The only thing that can ever come out of that kind of historical study is nationalist jingoism of one flavor or another.
This dumbing people down and telling them what to think isn’t helping anyone at all.
The purpose of public education history classes is to craft a shared national identity.
Dumbing down events and telling people what to think is a simple and effective way of achieving that end.
They are afraid people will decide they don’t really like a .01% hording 50% of the worlds wealth like dragons in their lairs on piles of gold.
Floridiocy will never die
what a shithole
I’m a GenXer and I have literally been fed anti-communist propaganda since I was a very small child. It’s only in the last 20 years or so that I finally “woke up” and realized how absolute bullshit it all really is.
I don’t think this is necessarily due to age. I think it’s just that circumstances have made capitalism look so bad that you realize that the propaganda was exactly that.
first, so theres no confusion. i am against this program and its a facist move. i want to take a detour on your comment.
this article is more about socialism but people always confuse the two. i am a capitalist who believes in socialist programs. i believe in public health care, free public schooling (include universoty), and universal basic income. please use mybtaxes to pay for all of it.
capitalism is about owning your own busisness, ehich i agree with and does not conflict with everything socialism. not everything needs to be privately owned but we should have the freedom to privately own a business.
but your comment wasnt on socislism but communism. i have an honest question and not a snarky one, if you really love communism, why not move to a communist country? i genuinely want to know. communism doesnt support private property either and thats very important to me. i am also genx and for most of my kife, i have been happy with my country. my ideal president was barrack obama.
now that this country is becoming religous facist at the highest levels, i have thought aboit leaving so again , i wasnt being snarky. if i loved communism, i wouod have left.
sorry for the long comment, i judt hope you see i have a genuine curiosity, which is hard to communicate in a forum.
Also gen X & I remember always playing as the U.S.S.R. in any game that let me choose because of the absolute banger of a national anthem!
The Civ 1 music was menacing and awesome. It reminded me of the Imperial March from The Empire Strikes Back.
I went to one of the very posh UK universities where they’re split into smaller colleges, and my friend’s college would play the Soviet National anthem at the end of every big party that was hosted in the college bar. The college student union had even passed a motion mandating that.
It was a surreal experience to see. A large chunk of people loved this tradition, but for very different reasons. There were a decent number who were straight up communists (or at least sufficiently left wing that they loved the political subversiveness of celebrating this song at such a posh university); Some people liked it ironically, for the meme (of the anthem-enjoyers, this faction were typically the poshest of the bunch); meanwhile, some people just thought the song was a banger — in my view, on this matter, these were the most based of them
Kind of like the DARE program taught kids to do drugs this will backfire and create communist.
I could actually sell this: “Communism is way less fun than drugs, kids.”
We’re already in the Red Scare III™️
This is the beginning of the cleanse.
DARE probably got a lot of kid’s parents thrown in jail.
Let’s not forget the foster children to didler pipeline that is apparently foundational to the modern conservative movement.
We have to get these kids isolated and institutionalized so the rich people can abuse them. The orphan crushing machine needs blood.
The Dare program I went through must have been wildly different than everyone else’s. Our police were local and usually parents of students and it was way more targeted at being safe and not feeling pressured into taking drugs. It def pushed the legal side of heavier drugs but was very specific about marijuana and making sure you are safe and in a safe place if you end up taking it. I’m 42 for reference.
My DARE program had the cop dads but none of the safety and safe place stuff. I would attribute it to the mixed racial makeup of my district, if the comparison stands up to yours. The DARE cops talked about gangs more than anything.
Ours definitely didn’t convey anything about “make sure you are in a safe space if you end up taking it”, it was fully “don’t do it, it’s evil!” and was so over the top that it definitely backfired for many kids. I also think that their practice of showing kids sealed samples of said drugs de-mystified them and made some kids curious.
DARE programs were notoriously ineffective. Some studies found that students who went through it were MORE likely to try drugs.
I also had a fairly friendly cop come in for our DARE classes when I was a kid. They also basically just said “drugs are always bad, just say no, if you don’t your whole life is ruined.”
They didn’t talk about why people use drugs. They lied or exaggerated negative effects. They discouraged any critical thinking about it. It was not a good program.
This lines up exactly with what ours was like in school.
I too immediately thought of DARE.
For fucks sake.
The kids will be okay. Exposure to the thing will foster critical thinking of the thing.
Guess TikTok really did a number on Western propaganda, at least in a couple of generations, and now America is even more afraid of losing their grip on narratives? Either way, that country is well and truly fucked, they’re just preparing for the collapse of the house of cards that is the American economy (people will need to be even more zombified to continue working and consuming). If the reputation of the American military crashes due to the new conflict in Iran (their reach and might have already been neutered in the region with billions in damaged and destroyed facilities), that might happen faster than expected. Hope American Lemmings either have enough money to be part of the new middle class or are seriously considering immigrating.
*emigrating
Reminds me of the mandatory classes on Marxism-Leninism that my parents had to take at university in the GDR.
It’s almost like all these words ar3 just synonyms to authoritarianism or smt 🙈
Uhh? So, like… Fascism propaganda classes?
Are they located at lake Laogai?
They already do that weird culty “Pledge of Allegiance”, the soil is fertile for more brainwashing.
The people riding the book probably don’t even know what communism is.
