Velma

Ooohhh will this be like the DARE program and actually end up converting students to support communism??

I know I learned a LOT about recreational drugs from school <3

I never said the men in my life suck, I said the exact opposite. Are you fighting ghosts? What’s happening here?

It’s not fair to edit your comments in an active conversation - I’m missing parts of your reply.

Where did I refuse to admit men can feel fear about women? Quote me.

I don’t think it’s impossible for women to present a threat to a man. The inverse is true though and pretending like men don’t pose a threat to women is being really disingenuous.

You’re just resigned that you will always be viewed as a threat even though you stay far away in public, don’t talk, keep eyes down, ear buds in, stay at home and hardly leave the house.

Not according to your original comment.

It’s not women’s fault that they make moves to protect themselves when out in public. ** It’s not a personal attack on you that women don’t want to be raped or assaulted.** Just because a woman may opt to ride with a female driver doesn’t mean that they refuse to interact with men in public.

The men that are in my life haven’t been in my life since I was born. How do you think men who have relationships with women (all types of relationships, not just romantic) do it? You cannot tell me that all men are cowering in their homes because they’re just so scared of women being scared of them because it’s objectively not true.

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You think you’ve thought this all through and I promise you haven’t. If you have you can tell me one objective fact that supports your stance. Else you’re just telling me you’re irrationally afraid and cannot articulate why. Because your fight or flight gets triggered when sense of identity gets challenged. It feels like someone if coming at you with a knife. That’s where hard internal questions need to be asked.

You’re putting words in my mouth. I’m not irrationally afraid of you. If women opting to protect themselves makes you feel like women are coming at you with a knife, that’s entirely a ‘you’ problem.

There’s nothing men can do to assuage that fear? Are you serious?

Be kind. Be gentle. Get involved in your communities. Get to know your neighbors. Volunteer. Be a known and safe presence for your peers. Be engaged in your hobbies and share your knowledge with others. Live your life with honesty and integrity.

I love men and I love the men in my life. Men can be great. Throwing your hands up and whining that women haven’t told you what to do to be a good person so you simply won’t try is acting like a child.

Women riders are already forced to accept a ride from any male or female driver.

How do women riders label male drivers as creeps? After they sexually assault or harass them? That’s what my question to you was - how does putting the onus on individual women riders to report creeps after they’ve done something creepy help those riders?

I agree that there should be a way to report drivers. But you realize that already exists, right? So maybe we could just support more options for women to feel safer?

You can sort by controversial or just open the replies under some other comments. There’s plenty of sexism against women here.

A lot of the nastier comments on lemmy aren’t super in your face, they’re subtle jokes about women being bad drivers or that it’s not fair to say men are violent against women.

Plus, If women can no longer trust men, and men tend to be pretty upset about it, them just not being together would solve this problem pretty fast

You’re completely overlooking the beauty and love in this world in favor of your misanthropic views and I don’t and can’t agree with you.

Provoke a discussion.

Ew, I’m not at your beck and call to entertain you and your delusional ideas. It’s laughable to push selective gender in utero as more humane than allowing women riders to seek out women drivers. I’m laughing at you.

Shoo.

Men are not born inherently more violent than women. That’s a sexist assumption from the get and invalidates your entire reply to be honest.

Acknowledging the real outcome of the patriarchy that men are encouraged and allowed to use violence to further their own wants is not the same as agreeing that men should be killed or boys shouldn’t be born.

What you don’t like is the emotions you feel when I suggest an idea that seems alien to you and have to mentally compare it to a worse idea that sates bitter catharsis or validates your desire to insulate and segregate for the aim of emotional comfort.

It’s not an idea that’s alien to me, I did ask what in the 4B you were talking about for a reason. I just recognize a violent and sexist idea when I see one and yours is extreme enough that it makes me think you’re doing it to further provoke gender wars on this site.

Men can be great - I love the men in my life. You’re just trying to fuel the gender wars to rile up discord here.

Men are upset that women feel the need to protect themselves against men.

Population control and eugenics tend to be bad ideas.

I’m still convinced you’re here to make feminists and women who support safety measures for other women look sexist with your “provocative” views on men.

I think you’re trolling and trying to make women who support this look sexist.

Almost like supporting safety measures for women doesn’t mean I’m sexist against men lol

What in the 4B are your comments here?

And opposing a safety feature so that women can travel easier and with less risk is not sexist? Women don’t deserve to be more safe because men are upset that most violence against women is perpetuated by men?

It just looks like you’re throwing a fit for the truth being told and women trying to mitigate that danger.

1 in 3 women worldwide have experienced physical and/or sexual violence at the hands of men. Be part of the solution if that fact bothers you.