• JustPlainDave@lemmy.zip
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    23 hours ago

    Why are so many people upset she’s campaigning with him? A former vice president and presidential candidate campaigning with him might get the centrists to vote for him.

    Edit: It appears some people just want an excuse not to vote.

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      They think she actually campaigned on supporting Israel b/c that’s what the take away of her not really taking a side was. Her participation isn’t going to scare off his left base.

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      Because she represents the return to the status quo of Democratic leadership where the people once again exist below corporations.

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        She lost Michigan left, not the moderates. In this case this isn’t going to hurt him on the left unless he changes his message. But she can show the moderates that he isn’t radioactive. It’s also worth remembering that she never got to run her own campaign, the corporate wing of the democratic party basically used her as a face.

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          She lost Michigan left, not the moderates.

          I wouldn’t be so sure. Self-proclaimed moderates in America tend to want stuff like universal healthcare, better public transport and taxes on the rich, and the median American voter hates Israel now. My impression is that actual moderates (the people that would be legitimately represented by Hakeem Jeffries or Kamala Harris) are very fortunately no longer a significant voter bloc, if they ever were. I won’t deny the potential benefits of name recognition, but on the other hand we can’t forget about all the Michigan Arabs who rightly hate Harris’s guts.

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          That’s now how elections work lol Kamala Harris is despised across the board as an uncharismatic wet blanket of a candidate who is violently in favor of supporting genocide to the point of lying to the general public.

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            “Violently in favor of supporting genocide”.

            Didn’t she support the two state solution?

            If her support of El-Sayed is enough to make you not vote for him you were never going to vote in the first place so why lie about it?

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              The two state solution is what we currently have. The only path forward with apartheid like we have in Israel is to follow the model of South Africa and democratically form a single state that represents all.

              I do not support two staters. They are just supporting Israel’s illegal existence and will never support the Palestinians they disdain with all their heart.

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                18 hours ago

                That’s an awful lot of words for “I’ll let the fascists have it instead of voting for the obviously better candidate.”

                How’s Palestine doing with Trump in the white house?

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                  About the same as it was doing when Biden was president. You do understand both sides of our last election were on the same side of this issue right? And how our government lied about it for almost a year before Trump took over?

                  Why are you so excited about Palestinians being genocides? Y’all libs always talk about this with such glee.

                  A one state solution is the only path forward where Israel is dismantled a new state it formed that democratically represents all people. Anything short of that will just reproduce the conditions we have today (that you seem to like)

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                    You must love having ICE pulling innocent people off the streets and shipping them God knows where while Israel does whatever the fuck it wants unchecked.

                    You are a fucking moron if you think she’d be worse or even the same for Palestine as the current administration.

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      Harris is toxic to critical demographics (including all those Arabs whose families and friends she campaigned on murdering) who are more important to the race than hypothetical centrists. We already know her track record with Michigan in any case.

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        including all those Arabs whose families and friends she campaigned on murdering

        You mean the ones currently being murdered by a Republican led government?

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            Except that anyone with half a brain knows that a Harris administration would have been much better for everyone, including Palestine. So I can only assume you love how the acceleration of the genocide in Palestine on top of now having our own gestapo pulling innocent people off the streets to ship them God knows where while killing protesters on top of a war in Iran. Congratulations.

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              How would it have been better? Like, you dipshits know that Israel bombed every single school and hospital, and carried out the most brutal phase of the genocide under Harris, right?