These “protests” are almost all weekend parades. If the Civil Rights Movement was like this it would’ve ended up a footnote in history. You should look up what MLK and crew actually did to get where they ended up. And of course, the Civil Rights Movement did employ wasn’t as peaceful as the textbooks would have you believe. So I guess what I want to say is: Do what MLK did then you can say you tried.
I don’t, in fact, live in America, but also the problem here is that your democracy has no future unless you do something. The time where this could be resolved without significant personal risk is long past. If you think the risk of regime retaliation is worse than the risk of living under MAGA for the next two decades, then sure, but know that those are the options you’re looking at here.
I don’t think you understand the likelihood of what you want resulting in our deaths. They’ve already killed numerous protesters. I live 1,100 Miles from DC. Hell, the closest real city is a hundred miles from me. I feel like you don’t understand the size and how spread out the country is. You seem to have this idea that we can just flip the do something switch and things magically happen.
You want to believe that you’re just better than us and that it can’t happen in your country, when it has likely already begun.
Do what you can to fight back. Trying to survive is how they want you kept busy. Stop buying consumerist things. Stop shopping at Walmart and target and Amazon. Join community groups. Vote. Attend rallies.
You personally may already do that bit most don’t. Union membership is down globally. Big tech is taking control and hasn’t had a useful product in a generation.
How do you propose we get a significant amount of people to do that? Hell, there’s a lot of places where Walmart might be the only choice, and if there is another choice it’s Dollar General, which is in some ways even worse than Walmart.
I can’t even really afford “consumerist things” (whatever that means, in my house we’re barely treading water with just the essentials at this point.
Around 30-something% of people voted for Harris. The rest voted for pedohitler or didn’t vote. If you didn’t vote, you helped pedohitler be where it is.
Nah. Fuck the US government we don’t have control of it. US isn’t a real democracy if it ever was.
I mean I agree people should vote and do more to stop fascism but failing to do so doesn’t make you responsible for other people’s actions. Frankly if all you’re doing is voting for Harris in this current disaster then you are barely better than a non-voter anyway.
I mean I agree people should vote and do more to stop fascism but failing to do so doesn’t make you responsible for other people’s actions.
Yes, it does. If your choices are Hitler and someone you disagree with but who’s not Hitler and you don’t vote, you’re saying that both Hitler and the other person are OK for you. So yeah, you are accepting that getting Hitler as president is fine.
Or maybe you fell for disinformation or maybe you just weren’t paying attention or maybe you thought your vote was more impactful boosting a third Party candidate because your state wasn’t going to be close anyway or maybe you couldn’t get off work that day and they closed the polling station near your house so it would have taken 2 hours by bus and you’d have gotten fired.
Lots of reasons people didn’t do the optimal thing around voting. Some of those are more excusable than others but none make you directly responsible for the things Trump and his followers are doing. They are responsible for their own actions. We are responsible for our own. That’s all.
And again, I personally don’t think we will get out of this solely by voting. People need to stop limiting political action solely to making a largely inconsequential mark on a piece of paper.
Trump is America’s great shame. He has harmed people financially all over the world, and he has presided over a dramatic increase in greenhouse gas emissions.
In the same way todays Australians bear the responsibility for attrocities perpetrated on first nations people before we were born, Americans for generations to come will bear responsibility for Trump.
People really overestimate in how much of the US a person’s vote for president matters. Like 2/3rds of the states aren’t even within reach of a wave election. And the people who could have an impact on the result but stayed home aren’t in a niche politics forum and are really checked out of politics. Like shockingly so. A non-voting acquaintance of mine was going to vote for a conservative nobody because he thought their name sounded cool.
The idea that the 30% non-voters should vote makes sense in a civic ideal sort of way, but they’re not going to show up as secret defenders of liberal democracy. They’re going to be very susceptible to propaganda and those that aren’t are going to vote for Idiocracy-level dumb reasons. Trump’s initial election made big gains from non-voters who are now shocked that he’s doing things he said he’d do.
Huh? Have you not been paying even the slightest bit of attention to what people are saying about what’s been happening here? Almost no one likes what is happening. Most people want meaningful change, just look at the amount of socialists getting wins in the past few months. We aren’t rioting, sure. But we are trying, we are making noise and making progress.
Any action you could possibly suggest that could make a major immediate impact would be illegal and would be cracked down upon harshly. People have been protesting the whole time but they’re either ignored or quashed, and it’ll only get worse thanks to the massive AI surveillance state that the parasites get wet dreams about. We can only hope the actions we take will move the needle at some point, but there is an immense force holding up israel.
yup, you americans voted for this, and after two years of theft, bribery and wanton destruction? you still do nothing.
The fuck do you expect us to do? Most of us are one missed paycheck away from homelessness.
What have you tried so far?
There have been protests all over the country all summer.
Something tells me the people who participated in the Civil Rights Movement weren’t exactly swimming in money either.
Protests have been going on non-stop since day one of the administration.
These “protests” are almost all weekend parades. If the Civil Rights Movement was like this it would’ve ended up a footnote in history. You should look up what MLK and crew actually did to get where they ended up. And of course, the Civil Rights Movement did employ wasn’t as peaceful as the textbooks would have you believe. So I guess what I want to say is: Do what MLK did then you can say you tried.
Yes, let’s riot under an administration that’s itching to call for nation wide marshal law.
You don’t live here, do you? If that’s the case, then I forgive your ignorance on the situation we’re in. Otherwise, what are you doing?
I don’t, in fact, live in America, but also the problem here is that your democracy has no future unless you do something. The time where this could be resolved without significant personal risk is long past. If you think the risk of regime retaliation is worse than the risk of living under MAGA for the next two decades, then sure, but know that those are the options you’re looking at here.
I don’t think you understand the likelihood of what you want resulting in our deaths. They’ve already killed numerous protesters. I live 1,100 Miles from DC. Hell, the closest real city is a hundred miles from me. I feel like you don’t understand the size and how spread out the country is. You seem to have this idea that we can just flip the do something switch and things magically happen.
You want to believe that you’re just better than us and that it can’t happen in your country, when it has likely already begun.
So you’re choosing option 2. In that case better look up how to avoid being disappeared by an authoritarian regime.
No, the opposite in fact. My country is already by an authoritarian regime, and it’s seriously not a fun experience.
Do what you can to fight back. Trying to survive is how they want you kept busy. Stop buying consumerist things. Stop shopping at Walmart and target and Amazon. Join community groups. Vote. Attend rallies.
You personally may already do that bit most don’t. Union membership is down globally. Big tech is taking control and hasn’t had a useful product in a generation.
How do you propose we get a significant amount of people to do that? Hell, there’s a lot of places where Walmart might be the only choice, and if there is another choice it’s Dollar General, which is in some ways even worse than Walmart.
I can’t even really afford “consumerist things” (whatever that means, in my house we’re barely treading water with just the essentials at this point.
Most Americans did not vote for this.
Around 30-something% of people voted for Harris. The rest voted for pedohitler or didn’t vote. If you didn’t vote, you helped pedohitler be where it is.
Nah. Fuck the US government we don’t have control of it. US isn’t a real democracy if it ever was.
I mean I agree people should vote and do more to stop fascism but failing to do so doesn’t make you responsible for other people’s actions. Frankly if all you’re doing is voting for Harris in this current disaster then you are barely better than a non-voter anyway.
Yes, it does. If your choices are Hitler and someone you disagree with but who’s not Hitler and you don’t vote, you’re saying that both Hitler and the other person are OK for you. So yeah, you are accepting that getting Hitler as president is fine.
The two choices were Hitler. Biden was in the middle of a genocide and then trump came in and continued it.
Or maybe you fell for disinformation or maybe you just weren’t paying attention or maybe you thought your vote was more impactful boosting a third Party candidate because your state wasn’t going to be close anyway or maybe you couldn’t get off work that day and they closed the polling station near your house so it would have taken 2 hours by bus and you’d have gotten fired.
Lots of reasons people didn’t do the optimal thing around voting. Some of those are more excusable than others but none make you directly responsible for the things Trump and his followers are doing. They are responsible for their own actions. We are responsible for our own. That’s all.
And again, I personally don’t think we will get out of this solely by voting. People need to stop limiting political action solely to making a largely inconsequential mark on a piece of paper.
Actually, that’s not really true I’m sorry.
Trump is America’s great shame. He has harmed people financially all over the world, and he has presided over a dramatic increase in greenhouse gas emissions.
In the same way todays Australians bear the responsibility for attrocities perpetrated on first nations people before we were born, Americans for generations to come will bear responsibility for Trump.
People really overestimate in how much of the US a person’s vote for president matters. Like 2/3rds of the states aren’t even within reach of a wave election. And the people who could have an impact on the result but stayed home aren’t in a niche politics forum and are really checked out of politics. Like shockingly so. A non-voting acquaintance of mine was going to vote for a conservative nobody because he thought their name sounded cool.
The idea that the 30% non-voters should vote makes sense in a civic ideal sort of way, but they’re not going to show up as secret defenders of liberal democracy. They’re going to be very susceptible to propaganda and those that aren’t are going to vote for Idiocracy-level dumb reasons. Trump’s initial election made big gains from non-voters who are now shocked that he’s doing things he said he’d do.
Huh? Have you not been paying even the slightest bit of attention to what people are saying about what’s been happening here? Almost no one likes what is happening. Most people want meaningful change, just look at the amount of socialists getting wins in the past few months. We aren’t rioting, sure. But we are trying, we are making noise and making progress.
You see what ICE is armed with? No thx man. My state says I shouldn’t even have a firearm and that I should trust the popo.
We didn’t vote our way into this and we cannot vote our way out of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlKmWa8p4UM
Any action you could possibly suggest that could make a major immediate impact would be illegal and would be cracked down upon harshly. People have been protesting the whole time but they’re either ignored or quashed, and it’ll only get worse thanks to the massive AI surveillance state that the parasites get wet dreams about. We can only hope the actions we take will move the needle at some point, but there is an immense force holding up israel.
Americans voted for genocide since the creation of israel
America was basically founded on genocide.