My problem with streaming services is that shows you are actively watching can disappear at any time.
Watching a show on Netflix? Oops, it’s on Disney+ now. Watching a show on Disney+? Oops, it’s on another service owned by Disney, but sign up now for a discounted bundle! Watching a show on HBO that was produced by HBO and owned by HBO? Oops, HBO got bought by an MBA that thinks they can make more money selling the streaming rights to Netflix, or worse, just save a few pennies on royalties but not making the show available at all.
I’d say, “ok, i have one or two streaming services at a time and i’ll just limit myself to what’s available; I want to support the system” and the system would find a way to fuck me every single time.
Right. I still pay for streaming music because music is still generally all available on each service. If you pay for Apple Music or Spotify, you pretty much get everything. Exceptions generally happen across all services, and they’re rare. Country artist Garth Brooks, great example. He was briefly on Amazon Music for a minute, but AFAIK isn’t on any streaming service. Most stuff most of us like, if it’s on one of the big music streamers, it’s on all of them. I still prefer to acquire FLACs of what I really like. I have most of my favourites on my Plex server. I also have them on my desktop PC. And I have them on an old Android phone’s SD card.
I could go fully offline with my music, but I don’t want to. I love music and I don’t mind paying. If movie/TV streaming had the same idea, I’d support that, too.
I think a better example of your situation was exactly what happened with Yellowstone. That was made by Paramount, but it wasn’t available on their streaming service, because they wanted it exclusive to their cable TV channel. That’s why all the stupid spinoffs exist, because thoseare on the streaming service. Paramount owns all of it but it can’t put all the Yellowstone content in one place. Personally, I liked it until Kevin Costner dipped out. I’m curious about some of the newer spinoffs, but the whole situation has just left a bad taste in my mouth, and there’s better stuff out there. Also, Taylor Sheridan’s work has gotten so diluted over the years. He spread himself too thin. His movies, Hell or High Water and Wind River still hold up, as do the first couple seasons of Yellowstone (I’d say, until the big assassination attempt season ending). None of the spinoffs I’ve seen were very good. I watched the first standalone, and the first season of the second one (both named after years).
I notice the medium easiest to pirate–music–has the best streaming support. I’ d like to be cynical and say there’ s a connection, but I think it’ s just more that 3-5 minutes of media just commands less market value so it’ s easier for people to bid based on needing to control the entire catalog
Personally, I’m back to local music, even though streaming music is a relatively good experience. I left initially for getting fed AI music, also left because I’m poor, but also left because discoverability was weak; that is to say, there were a few limited number of genres and songs I’ d get pulled into, and often I felt like the songs I were listening to were newer and being promoted, not older and classics… and on top of that, payouts to musicians are mostly garbage, and most of the people I listen to are dead or nearly so… so… I didn’t really think I was " supporting" anything worthwhile.
If you like to watch old men shaking their fists at clouds, Rick Beato’ on YouTube is a musician and music producer who has a lot to say about streaming and the state of music… He’s got some interesting points about how streaming as a medium is changing how music is produced and consumed.
I haven’t seen Yellowstone, but it sounds like the short-sightedness profit maximization that is endemic everywhere now. The idea that you need to build a relationship of trust with your customers is completely gone, the idea that your customers can just walk away not only from you, but the entire ecosystem, is also gone… some encouraging/discouraging news from a lot of different places Gaming, for instance, is in a crisis because every game is trying to appeal to everyone and so appeals nobody.
My problem with streaming services is that shows you are actively watching can disappear at any time.
Watching a show on Netflix? Oops, it’s on Disney+ now. Watching a show on Disney+? Oops, it’s on another service owned by Disney, but sign up now for a discounted bundle! Watching a show on HBO that was produced by HBO and owned by HBO? Oops, HBO got bought by an MBA that thinks they can make more money selling the streaming rights to Netflix, or worse, just save a few pennies on royalties but not making the show available at all.
I’d say, “ok, i have one or two streaming services at a time and i’ll just limit myself to what’s available; I want to support the system” and the system would find a way to fuck me every single time.
Right. I still pay for streaming music because music is still generally all available on each service. If you pay for Apple Music or Spotify, you pretty much get everything. Exceptions generally happen across all services, and they’re rare. Country artist Garth Brooks, great example. He was briefly on Amazon Music for a minute, but AFAIK isn’t on any streaming service. Most stuff most of us like, if it’s on one of the big music streamers, it’s on all of them. I still prefer to acquire FLACs of what I really like. I have most of my favourites on my Plex server. I also have them on my desktop PC. And I have them on an old Android phone’s SD card.
I could go fully offline with my music, but I don’t want to. I love music and I don’t mind paying. If movie/TV streaming had the same idea, I’d support that, too.
I think a better example of your situation was exactly what happened with Yellowstone. That was made by Paramount, but it wasn’t available on their streaming service, because they wanted it exclusive to their cable TV channel. That’s why all the stupid spinoffs exist, because those are on the streaming service. Paramount owns all of it but it can’t put all the Yellowstone content in one place. Personally, I liked it until Kevin Costner dipped out. I’m curious about some of the newer spinoffs, but the whole situation has just left a bad taste in my mouth, and there’s better stuff out there. Also, Taylor Sheridan’s work has gotten so diluted over the years. He spread himself too thin. His movies, Hell or High Water and Wind River still hold up, as do the first couple seasons of Yellowstone (I’d say, until the big assassination attempt season ending). None of the spinoffs I’ve seen were very good. I watched the first standalone, and the first season of the second one (both named after years).
I notice the medium easiest to pirate–music–has the best streaming support. I’ d like to be cynical and say there’ s a connection, but I think it’ s just more that 3-5 minutes of media just commands less market value so it’ s easier for people to bid based on needing to control the entire catalog
Personally, I’m back to local music, even though streaming music is a relatively good experience. I left initially for getting fed AI music, also left because I’m poor, but also left because discoverability was weak; that is to say, there were a few limited number of genres and songs I’ d get pulled into, and often I felt like the songs I were listening to were newer and being promoted, not older and classics… and on top of that, payouts to musicians are mostly garbage, and most of the people I listen to are dead or nearly so… so… I didn’t really think I was " supporting" anything worthwhile.
If you like to watch old men shaking their fists at clouds, Rick Beato’ on YouTube is a musician and music producer who has a lot to say about streaming and the state of music… He’s got some interesting points about how streaming as a medium is changing how music is produced and consumed.
I haven’t seen Yellowstone, but it sounds like the short-sightedness profit maximization that is endemic everywhere now. The idea that you need to build a relationship of trust with your customers is completely gone, the idea that your customers can just walk away not only from you, but the entire ecosystem, is also gone… some encouraging/discouraging news from a lot of different places Gaming, for instance, is in a crisis because every game is trying to appeal to everyone and so appeals nobody.