Earlier White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt said that Spain has agreed to cooperate with the U.S. military after President Donald Trump threatened to cut trade with Madrid over its stance against the US-Israeli strikes on Iran
Which then quickly prompted the Spanish government to categorically deny any such agreement of cooperation with the US military.
Article translated w/ DeepL
The Minister of Foreign Affairs, José Manuel Albares, has “categorically” denied that Spain will “cooperate militarily” with the US, as previously stated by White House spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt. At a press conference, the US official said that “Spain has agreed to cooperate militarily in the last few hours.” In an appearance this morning, Prime Minister Pedro Sánchez summed up Spain’s position on the conflict “in four words: No to war.” For its part, the European Commission has warned that it is prepared to act and safeguard the interests of the Union in response to US President Donald Trump’s threat of a trade embargo against Spain. On the ground, Turkey has reported that NATO systems installed on its soil have shot down a missile over its territory, which fell without causing damage after flying over Iraq and Syria. NATO has condemned the launch by Iran. In addition, Israel continues, together with the US, its bombing of Iran, where it has attacked targets in Tehran and other cities. The death toll from the offensive by both countries has exceeded 1,000, while the Ayatollah regime has continued to launch missiles against US targets in countries surrounding the Persian Gulf, such as Kuwait, the Emirates, Saudi Arabia, and Qatar.
I’d be more surprised if Karoline Leavitt said the truth for once. Now that would be breaking news!
Great so the White House pretends Spain agreed and does not punish them and Spain still bans the US from using their bases.
Who still believes in the WH declarations these days? Go Spain!
To the ALL involved: how about disclosing all the files?
Operation Epstein Fury
Straight up lying about what other governments agree to.
Like, I don’t even know what the purpose was here… what did they think, the spanish won’t be hearing about it because its in english?Donald Trump is a very stupid man. Some of his handlers are smarter (as in, they have basic competence; none of them are particularly smart) so some of the things he does have something at least resembling a coherent strategy, but sometimes Trump acts on his own and just does things for the sake of doing them.
The purpose of this is that right wing news media will only report what Trump said while never mentioning the rebuttal. Now they’ll do whatever they want and when they get push back they’ll say “yeah but you said we could” and all of his fans will back him up. And since Trump purged most of the senior military that opposed him the military will most likely back him up too. So now if there’s an international incident involving the illegal use of US military bases in Spain they can say it was Spain that broke the agreement.
Facts don’t matter for these people. They only care about what their dear leader says while everything else is noise or ignored entirely. Essentially, this message isn’t for us or Spain, it was for MAGA.
Ah the Spanish, they still only have sticks and stones no way they can receive broadcasts
They’re too busy with their siestas, drinking wine and talking very loudly to read international media.
as a Spaniard, I confirm
Right after the conference José Manuel Albares declared “it’s siesta time”
And expecting their very own Inquisition.
And I always though nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition.
That’s why you always have to be on alert.
bro thinks he’s playing Civ
They know that their supporters won’t question it further.
Exactly. These comments are not directed at the sane, it’s so their supporters don’t have to admit that trump loses most of the time.
Honestly I think it’s a tried and true shameless asshole business strategy of his or something. You tell everybody you made a deal and brow beat the other party into just going along with it instead of trying to correct history.
It might not work for many people and businesses, but it probably works for a narcissistic trust fund scumbag that was handed a real estate empire and taught strategy by the very man who raised Donald Trump to have the personality he does.
Well they also tried to do the same with the Venezuela’s VP, and that also blew up in their face. My guess is it will just be a thing they do now.
i mean…it works with Netanyahu’s speeches in hebrew, for dove-zionists back in the States that only speak english
Trump is dumb enough to believe that Spaniards don’t understand English just because he doesn’t understand Spanish
They said they’re going to cut all trade with Spain over Spain not letting them use bases for these Iran strikes. My guess is someone in the Trump cabinet imports Spanish wine or some shit, and so they need trade with Spain.
Trump says Spain let them do the thing, so trade is back on! Art of the deal, baby!
The only other option is that they did reach an agreement and said agreement allowed Spain to deny its existence. Trump did this with Iran before bombing actually, where he proposed the Iranian government could save face with public statements while complying with his demands. When they refused, he bombed them.
No, because nobody understands a word this guy is saying.
And they fucking have to stand alone, abandoned by all EU “allies”. EU is falling apart and it’s not because immigrants or Russian meddling. It’s because spineless leaders like Merz and von der Leyen, always looking to do the absolute minimum and never anger anyone. So fucking disappointing.
Alliances are thankfully not only about joining aggressor’s wars or joining because your ally joined the aggressor’s war. If that would be the case we would have a total war or another world war. Its also great that NATO is a defensive alliance and its articles don’t apply for such wars.
As a European I’m happy that we’re not joining Trump’s and Netanyahu’s stupid war (especially after both of them spitting on the international or their own countries’ laws).
As a German I am ashamed at the pieces of shit we elect. Or appoint.
“in four words: No to war.”
Before anyone jumps on the translation error, there are four words in the original. “en cuatro palabras: No a la guerra.”
Could just translate it “no to the war” instead of writing an explanation.
I’d rather translate it as: in three words no to war. Translation does not have to be literal in these cases. But I guess since it was translated with DeepL, it is good that someone pointed out the reason for that discrepancy.
I can only draw from my French, but I guess “no to war” is the correct translation, as “no to the war” in English would be either wonky or would mean “no to this specific war”. But the Spanish wording is more read as “no to war in general”, so the translation is more correct.
I can only draw from my French
Est-ce que Duolingo me menti?? Il accepte les deux… (/s)
Anyway, I figured “no to this specific war” was close enough, especially since he was in fact talking in the context of a specific war.
Soit Duolinguo “te ment” (au présent), soit il “t’as menti” (au passé). Mais “me(présent) menti(passé)” c’est pas possible
Noter que l’équivalent première personne pour “t’as” est “m’a”, in order to seed confusion among enemy troops
Based on french, I would also support the “no to war in general” hypothesis. I don’t have a grammatical reason for this, it’s just that this phrasing is most often used for general concepts than specific instances. If they were talking about this war specifically, it would look like “no a esta guerra” or something.
Who knows maybe someone who actually has a clue how spanish works will one day read this thread x)
That looks wonky in English. Nobbling your translations for the sake of people incapable of understanding that words work differently in other languages is like putting “REMOVE FROM BOX BEFORE EATING” on pizza cartons.
I was under the impression that “la” could act as an article as well as helping signify gender. My mistake.
But in that case, if you don’t want to “nobble” your translation, why not go for “in [three] words: no to war” instead? Translating the math definitely seems less “wonky” to me than annotating it with a long, awkward explanation.
It is an article
USA does not understand, EU is one marked, you can not stop trade with one country. Can the EU stop trade only with Florida!? Think Trump, think!
You can still target one entity within a common market. For instance, when Canada enacted retaliatory tariffs on the United States we targeted products that were mainly produced in red states. I doubt Trump is capable of that kind of strategy, though.
Spain continuing to be incredibly based
…we need a megathread for all news that start with “White House says”, “Trump threatens” constant attention whoring. I just want out of this ride.
Oh look, it’s the Trump special!
Just like a few days ago how Iran wanted to “make a deal”
For once, I am proud of the actions of my government. For sure they are not going to stop the war, but it is the only prime minister of Europe that faces eeuu during the recent conflitcs.
For once? What about Israel sanctions?
Just let them lie, takes the threat of trade embargo away without having to actually do anything about it.
Ladies and gentlemen, the art of the deal.
Fuck you tRump, europe likes you about as much as that russian midget. Go fuck yourself.
