• bearboiblake@pawb.social
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    5 hours ago

    If it makes you feel better, EVs aren’t a real solution to the problems we face anyways, public transport was always the solution and EVs was a way to get consumers to keep focusing on individualism and consumerism to solve societal problems.

    Edit: So many replies falling over themselves about how EVs are a good “baby step”. They’re not. Hydrogen fuel cells is a good baby step. EVs are still extremely extractivist. Lithium batteries are very bad, environmentally speaking. Hydrogen is significantly cleaner. It is avoided because it would require unprofitable infrastructure to be rolled out to support hydrogen vehicles.

    • pomegranatefern@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      5 hours ago

      I am 100% in favor of density, non-car-centric urban development, active mobility and rock-solid public transit – I am on this community for a reason, after all, and I further do not drive. But I acknowledge that there are some cases where cars are important for trade work, hauling, etc., as well as where buses are the better option for transit, and in those cases I believe that the vehicle should be electrified. It may only be like 5% of the solution, but it’s a part of the solution nevertheless.

      • Batmorous@lemmy.world
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        1 hour ago

        More of a tram person instead of buses for transit due to how much more comfortable of a ride it is. Everything else I fully agree with though

        Open Source Electric vehicles here we come!

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          57 minutes ago

          I generally prefer trams and light rail to buses, but buses do offer a lot of flexibility that can be useful in any transit system. I do think that right now they’re often not given appropriate priority and used for routes that should be run by trams or light rail though.

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      8 hours ago

      Rural places and bigots will still need or want personal cars. Some things like a trades work van or delivery service will still need a car/truck. These might as well be developed as electric. EVs are not the solution to our transportation and environmental issues but they are part of it.

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zip
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      10 hours ago

      EVs aren’t the perfect solution. But they’re less bad than ICE vehicles, and are a good interim measure unless/until public transport becomes more viable.

      Don’t let the best get in the way of the good enough for now. It’s OK to be in favor of two things.

    • hobovision@mander.xyz
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      12 hours ago

      Cars will always be the best choice for many many trips for many many kinds of people. Cities are most efficient but not everyone can be in one, and public transit doesn’t work in farmland. We need both. EVs is a way to reduce the use of fossil fuels in transportation. We don’t have time to wait to densify every city and build out good transit networks, that will take decades. EVs have real benefits today. It just sucks modern cars are nightmares.

      • msage@programming.dev
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        11 hours ago

        Guess who drives the most in total.

        And guess how much it can be reduced with good public transport.