I’m a firm believer in nuclear, but I think that’s a garbage argument against renewable since we have batteries, and other means of energy storage like reservoirs. And now China is lifting a building and dropping it for power. The US is introducing batteries that last 24 hours for data center use.
Honestly, the energy storage sector is interesting to watch right now. There are seemingly endlessly researched designs for energy storage that have never made it to market. But now all of a sudden when data centers are realizing there’s not enough power on the grid, now they’re hitting market. To an extent, I get supply and demand. But the energy storage infrastructure hitting the market now isn’t from recent ground breaking innovations. This shit could have been implemented years ago.
I’m American, I dont know shit about geography, but I think Germany is central to northern Europe.
Germany’s peak solar time is the summer, and their peak wind time is winter. Fascinating. Do you think the people in charge of the grid know this? Maybe this could be leveraged to reduce the energy storage needs for solar power during the winter???
As someone who closely follows the energy storage market, you should know that lithium-ion battery production capacity is expected to reach 7TWh/year by 2030, from 2022’s 2TWh/year. Why? Demand, from all the fucking electric vehicles because we’re going to run out of fossil fuels soon. Not technological advances.
Similarly, iron air batteries were tested by Westinghouse in the 70s, and are currently being brought to market. As far as I can tell, there has been little improvements to the technology to make it commercially viable, other than demand. You know, from all the fucking data centers going in.
Hell, let’s go back to Germany. They have double the wind capacity as they do solar? Why? Demand. Because Germany focused on wind as being the premier renewable energy, not solar. It wasn’t until recently that they created programs to increase demand of solar.
The grid is an infrastructure project. As such, we don’t need to rely on batteries. We can use infrastructure projects, such as reservoirs, for energy storage. And in the US, we’ve been using this method since 1930. I know what youre thinking, “In northern Europe we can’t do that!” But alas, Switzerland did it in 1909. And pumped storage hydropower achieves 70-80% efficiency, which is pretty fucking good. And let’s be real, if your grid isn’t diversified enough where that’s a problem, then that’s a problem with your grid and your incompetent policy makers, not the tech. Or there’s an issue with electric demand, which is a failure of your politicians not keeping the Pedophile Class in line.
The reason energy storage for the grid is a problem now is because we didn’t invest in production 30 years ago. Not because the research was behind. It’s because politicians and the pedophile class failed us.
You are failing the future with the bullshit that you are spouting. Just a parrot of the pedophile class.
Research, knowledge, and tech is not restricting energy storage.
Add “hot sand” to your storage options friend. It’s shockingly efficient for storing thermal energy, which can be used directly for vast swathes of industrial processes, and with the addition of the oldie but goodie “turbine and steam”…
Nobody is really thinking. Some of the people who hate nuclear power think reactors are literally nuclear bombs, some of them believe the wildly exaggerated claims about waste storage and disposal, some of them are getting paid by Russia to undermine competition for their gas.
Acting as if nuclear power failures can’t and haven’t caused catastrophic problems doesn’t help the argument. I can understand why people don’t trust the government to properly regulate and police the industry when there are multiple incidents when that’s been proven.
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I live in an area that purely runs on renewables. We have wind, solar and hydroelectric. No outages.
We’re providing France with energy because their nuclear power stations can’t deal with the heat.
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I’m a firm believer in nuclear, but I think that’s a garbage argument against renewable since we have batteries, and other means of energy storage like reservoirs. And now China is lifting a building and dropping it for power. The US is introducing batteries that last 24 hours for data center use.
Honestly, the energy storage sector is interesting to watch right now. There are seemingly endlessly researched designs for energy storage that have never made it to market. But now all of a sudden when data centers are realizing there’s not enough power on the grid, now they’re hitting market. To an extent, I get supply and demand. But the energy storage infrastructure hitting the market now isn’t from recent ground breaking innovations. This shit could have been implemented years ago.
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Energy storage =/= batteries
I’m American, I dont know shit about geography, but I think Germany is central to northern Europe.
Germany’s peak solar time is the summer, and their peak wind time is winter. Fascinating. Do you think the people in charge of the grid know this? Maybe this could be leveraged to reduce the energy storage needs for solar power during the winter???
As someone who closely follows the energy storage market, you should know that lithium-ion battery production capacity is expected to reach 7TWh/year by 2030, from 2022’s 2TWh/year. Why? Demand, from all the fucking electric vehicles because we’re going to run out of fossil fuels soon. Not technological advances.
Similarly, iron air batteries were tested by Westinghouse in the 70s, and are currently being brought to market. As far as I can tell, there has been little improvements to the technology to make it commercially viable, other than demand. You know, from all the fucking data centers going in.
Hell, let’s go back to Germany. They have double the wind capacity as they do solar? Why? Demand. Because Germany focused on wind as being the premier renewable energy, not solar. It wasn’t until recently that they created programs to increase demand of solar.
The grid is an infrastructure project. As such, we don’t need to rely on batteries. We can use infrastructure projects, such as reservoirs, for energy storage. And in the US, we’ve been using this method since 1930. I know what youre thinking, “In northern Europe we can’t do that!” But alas, Switzerland did it in 1909. And pumped storage hydropower achieves 70-80% efficiency, which is pretty fucking good. And let’s be real, if your grid isn’t diversified enough where that’s a problem, then that’s a problem with your grid and your incompetent policy makers, not the tech. Or there’s an issue with electric demand, which is a failure of your politicians not keeping the Pedophile Class in line.
The reason energy storage for the grid is a problem now is because we didn’t invest in production 30 years ago. Not because the research was behind. It’s because politicians and the pedophile class failed us.
You are failing the future with the bullshit that you are spouting. Just a parrot of the pedophile class.
Research, knowledge, and tech is not restricting energy storage.
Politicians and the pedophile elite are.
Add “hot sand” to your storage options friend. It’s shockingly efficient for storing thermal energy, which can be used directly for vast swathes of industrial processes, and with the addition of the oldie but goodie “turbine and steam”…
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Nobody is really thinking. Some of the people who hate nuclear power think reactors are literally nuclear bombs, some of them believe the wildly exaggerated claims about waste storage and disposal, some of them are getting paid by Russia to undermine competition for their gas.
Acting as if nuclear power failures can’t and haven’t caused catastrophic problems doesn’t help the argument. I can understand why people don’t trust the government to properly regulate and police the industry when there are multiple incidents when that’s been proven.