Before you compare EU email providers, get your own domain. It is the single change that lets you switch providers later without redoing the painful migration.
  • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
    61·
    3 days ago

    I got [surname].de over twenty years ago and I am so happy about that. Google can gargle my balls, I run postfix, rspamd, dovecot and roundcube.

    • yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      1·
      1 day ago

      It doesn’t work if someone else registered that domain already >:(

      Though it is interesting they apparently registered it in 2006. Maybe you stole my domain before I was legally able to.

      • normonator@lemmy.mlEnglish
        21·
        2 days ago

        I have firstname@lastname.countrycode and occasionally I get people that it breaks their brain that it’s not @gmail or something and they insist its wrong or won’t work.

        Funny but also mildy annoying at times.

        • towerful@programming.devEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          It’s even worse when some idiot dev decides what an email should look like and doesn’t properly implement RFC822 (or whichever one specifies all the random bits of a valid email address).

          The current recommendation is to check for an @ symbol. It’s pretty much the only concrete rule.
          If an email address has to exist, the only way is to send it an email and have the user click a link.

          https://beesbuzz.biz/code/439-Falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-email

        • nibbs@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          I was too late for that, unfortunately and got <lastname>.<town> which also some people don’t comprehend.
          Although it’s the capitol and there are sites from public services which use that TLD as well.

          What genuinely pisses me off: Prior to that I got <lastname>.name, and there are sites, which refuse to accept it as a valid TLD when I try to register with them.

          Edit: I got <lastname[with umlauts]>.<countrycode>, tho as this was available, but those don’t work that well. Or didn’t, when I last checked.

      • lichtmetzger@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
        10·
        2 days ago

        I have a complicated surname, so when people ask for my email I just show them my ID and say “firstname@lastname.de” and they can type it in, reading it off the card.

        It’s made my life so easy!

        I also kept all of my spam mails of the last twenty years and trained rspamd with it. It’s got a 99.9% success rate. I’d even argue it works better than some corporate mail providers (what also helps is that I provide the mail service for friends & family as well and we are all collectively training the database).

        It was a pain to setup initially, but I don’t want to miss it.

  • gedfromgont@piefed.caEnglish
    8·
    2 days ago

    Last time I looked at it the service I wanted to use to register a domain asked for my full legal name and address for the process. This would have then shown up in some publicly available repository of registered domains, at least that’s how I understood it.

    It this something all registrars have to do or did I get this wrong?

  • Riddick3001@lemmy.worldEnglish
    191·
    3 days ago

    I’ve been thinking about registrating my own domain ( again) but I can’t settle or lack imagination for an easy recognisable name format for us. Anyone ideas?

    Also there’s a connection to selfhosted here, but I need to delve a bit deeper maybe.

          • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
            1·
            2 days ago

            On all my domains I always get spam at info@domain because the lazy marketers just scrape a list of domains and assume most of them has info@

            It’s actually a honeypot that will add the sender to a blocklist

      • tomatolung@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        1·
        2 days ago

        You don’t use the simplelogin (now part of proton pass) random or custom address generation? You can use your own custom domain with it.

        I’ve been doing this with nearly every new account as it’s normally email or phone which third party data sharing is keyed off of.

        • powdermilkman@piefed.socialEnglish
          5·
          2 days ago

          I’ll check that out but I like to do things like amazon@lastname.me for each service and when I get spam to that same address I know who sold my email address. Not that I really do anything about it but send that address to spam but I like to know.

    • Gloria@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      8·
      3 days ago

      It is like a tattoo: Do not think too much about the first or third tattoo/domain. the tenth will give you an feeling and the 15th you feel completed. Just start with one and as soon as you have control over your first digital cert endpoint, you can forward easy from it to any other domain in you control and depricating out unwanted domains over years without problems. It is a road not the destination to choosen your first domain. Hit the Road Riddick and don’t you come back no more.

        • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
          3·
          2 days ago

          My registrar told me that I could have a 5% permanent discount if I registered, transferred or renewed 80 domains.

          I now have so many unused domains for that ideas that I will never have the time to implement

    • Heiliger Strohsack@feddit.orgEnglish
      4·
      3 days ago

      The first one I registred back then was uncreative yet convenient: My full legal name. I like to advise almost anyone to do so.

      For all the places where you do not need or want to reveal your identity you can use something harmless website3001 (or just any random number)

    • tburkhol@lemmy.worldEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      five random letters. short enough to be easily memorizable & easily communicated by voice. no homophones, even in other languages. no one going to try to buy the domain out from under you. You could try four random letters, but that runs more risk of colliding with acronyms.

    • asap@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      ______mail.com, just come up with something available to fill the blank.

      Then, use unique addresses for all services you sign up for, and they look like individual accounts created at some mail service.

      You can even make a boilerplate static site at the domain to look like a genuine mail service.

    • pimat@feddit.orgEnglish
      3·
      3 days ago

      For me it was just numbers .xyz and I am happy with that. Date of birth if you use it for private stuff and its $1 a month at namecheap.com.

      • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
        2·
        2 days ago

        Unfortunately many spammers use .xyz because it’s cheap and the nic abuse doesn’t do anything about that (even maybe it is complicit)

        The result is that many mail servers block .xyz altogether

    • Ibuthyr@feddit.orgEnglish
      171·
      2 days ago

      You can use a domain with proton mail. And when proton turns into garbage someday, you register your domain with a different mail provider. That way you get to keep your mail address.

    • WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      19·
      2 days ago

      The benefit is that you can keep the same email if/when a provider enshittifies, including proton.

      Custom domains are a lot like open sourcing in software; helps keep the SaaS honest. If most customers use a custom domain, the service provider would act based on the knowledge that they could lose most customers easily.

  • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
    2·
    2 days ago

    I’m addicted to the Gmail webmail, does anyone know a webmail that can be similar?

    Maybe roundcube with a mess of hundreds of plugins?

    Crossbox is nice but the price is unaffordable (pricing designed for a hosting with thousands of users)

    • Obi@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      I’m still being lazy about actually making the jump myself but I’d probably go with proton. They’re not perfect and already showing signs they might enshittify in the future but for now it’s still miles ahead of giving all the data to the Americans. In September when I’m back from holidays…

      • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
        2·
        1 day ago

        My main issue with proton is the forced encryption and so the lack of IMAP. The mails I receive are not sensitive, and I much prefer to use my own client rather than being forced to use theirs

    • Phoenixz@lemmy.caEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      I’ve used round cube about 7 years ago, but it was a very poor experience in comparison with gmail back then. Gmail hasn’t really changed anything since, except that it got less reliable, I can only hope that there now are better open source web mail clients; there can’t be worse

  • Pantherina (he)@feddit.orgEnglish
    61·
    2 days ago

    Okay? Or just setup forwarding

    This is a neat trick but also very unprivate as your mail will be unique and a huge barrier (monetary)

  • CAVOK@lemmy.worldOPEnglish
    41·
    3 days ago

    Main issue for me is my current mails. How easy/hard is it to move everything i already have over to the new provider.

    • Pruning9165@feddit.orgEnglish
      2·
      2 days ago

      You setup both addresses in thunderbird, then simply drag and drop all the emails from one side to the other

    • cosmos8188@leminal.spaceEnglish
      7·
      2 days ago

      It actually very easy - majority of email providers have a email transfer service; and if thats not your cup of tea then you can manually export and import them.

    • KevinOnEarth@mstdn.io
      1·
      2 days ago

      @CAVOK
      I’ve had several of my own @_URLs since I first connected to the Internet & currently run them through Thunderbird. And there is an extension on TB for exporting emails (in readable .eml format) called “ImportExportTools NG” that I run every month so I can clean up my (busy) mailbox regularly but still archive/have access to years of mail.
      (I also send TB the odd donation once in a while for the service.)
      For URL hosting I suggest OVH, Infomaniak (France & Switz) but Proton email too.

  • imsure@lemmy.worldEnglish
    42·
    2 days ago

    I thought about it, but doesn’t it have it’s own disadvantages? Like higher chances of your letters end up in spam?

    • Pechente@feddit.orgEnglish
      141·
      2 days ago

      Only if you also host it yourself. I connected my domain to proton and it works great. Best part is though that you can switch the host whenever and nobody is even gonna notice. Your address will stay the same and you can even migrate over your mailbox to new providers.