Going by comments in the post, the required login is coming in waves, so not all people may notice immediately.
Still, as Reddit is strong-arming its way across, maybe worth signaling to people there that the fediverse may be used without an account, so long as there’s even one instance that implements logged-out view as the protocol allows it?
I don’t have access to my account any longer, possibly VPN ban, though I never tried to recover it so I can only guess why mine is lost, else I’d post myself.
I’m on Lemmy for the first time today after discovering it because Reddit was doing this to me today. Good Riddance. Happy I found an alternative.
Welcome :)
God I hope the fediverse gets bigger than it is now
I don’t want to be mean but Reddit has a fuckload of really niche and weird interests and hobbies that I happen to be in that lemmy just doesn’t have.
Doesn’t even need to be niche. There are no active major sports communities, much less local teams, which is about the only pleasure I get from browsing that place anymore through Redlib instances. Among others, BSky built cachet from sports journalists adopting the platform. Attracting a core of these otherwise apolitical mainstream interests may be necessary to kick start the network effect.
Aside, I would say it’s ironically the more peculiar cultures I’ve hung around that never had Reddit or Discord supplant their surviving forums and chat servers that are doing the best these days in consistent quality engagement. While I think the post and threaded comment format inherited from Digg is adequate for news and current events, I hope slower-paced subs seeking to migrate seriously consider if they’d be better served by a different kind of service too.
Start posting then buddy
God I hope the fediverse gets bigger than it is now
Haven’t checked your post history so saying that generically, but hope must be accompanied by action. So to those that have the same feeling, I invite to look for ways they can help.
There were many art subs that I followed that I don’t have the skill, imagination, or time to create and post on. There were many technical subs that I enjoy reading about but know almost nothing about.
Many people don’t have time or energy to prepare and share things online, or don’t like sharing online, let alone the skill to create the things they would like to read about. There are many types of people in the world with different capacities for different things. Sometimes commenting is the only way some people feel they can participate. Sometimes it’s only voting.
I made this firefox extension that might help with the transition. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-to-lemmy-reposter/
All files are free and opensource here to do whatever you want with it. https://github.com/jamesey10/reddit2lemmy
Lemmy’s still too full of incredibly thin skinned snowflakes and tankies for it to get popular
I don’t understand the amount of communist talk on this platform. Maybe it’s because it has fewer Americans on it, but we pretty much never think of communism at all.
It basically only ever brought up by right-wing politicians to scare the voter base. Nobody really gives a shit.
hey, i was only told twice yesterday that i deserve to die by some random drive by commentator.
Well I hope you live forever, motherfucker
Not to be dumb but what is a tankie? I’ve never heard that term before
To add to this: tankies are leftist MAGA. It’s not what they (claim to) believe so much as they are toxic trolls who deny facts and reality itself. Discussions with them tend to be very unpleasant, since they use “alternative facts” and incel-style reasoning - e.g. when you block them they are quite proud of how they simply make a new account and keep right on going. No does not mean no to them but rather to simply push harder.
I joined Lemmy like a lot of others, when Reddit shut down the API. I soon went back to Reddit but also stayed on Lemmy.
The big problem for me with Lemmy is it’s still way too small to use it the way I use Reddit. I’ve subscribed to a whole bunch of communities equivalent to the subreddits I read and comment on. On Reddit those subreddits have a few hundred people active on a daily basis, whereas on Lemmy they’re lucky to see 1 post and 2 comments a week.
Small communities and real discussions were always what I liked about Reddit, never the big subreddits with millions of users. For now, anyway, Lemmy’s communities are just too small to foster those discussions (on the topics I’m still on Reddit for, anyway; there’s plenty of politics here obviously).
Me too! I never went back to Reddit though. I lost my account with rif that was carefully built over years. I still can’t figure out lemmy, fediverse, whatever it’s called. The tech is not something I care about. I want a simple and easy to use interface, like rif. But this is 1000 times better than dodging ads, bots and trolls on an over-capitalized website.
I want a simple and easy to use interface, like rif.
I also used to use RIF. Have you tried Boost for Lemmy? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.rubenmayayo.lemmy&hl=en_US
I got the reddit block about a week ago, so I’ve given this place another try (first tried it after the reddit API fiasco). I would like lemmy if it were more active. I mostly used reddit for news headlines, and I haven’t found any communities here that are nearly as quick for breaking news and whatnot. I feel like my head has been buried in the ground since leaving Reddit. Still not going back though.
i normally get breaking news far quicker on the microblogging section of the fediverse. have you considered setting up a mastodon account maybe?
I have Mastodon, but I just get infosec updates there. How would I get general news updates as well? Just follow a vunch of media outlets?
Cricket said it good below
AFAIK the key to discovery of content you want in Mastodon is to follow specific hashtags, then follow any accounts that you find interesting from there. There are definitely major network effects on Mastodon. Maybe check #news to see if it might be a good starting point for you.
this
i would also suggest piefed over lemmy; not because one is better than the other but because piefed shows other related communities under a thread and might be easier to come over from reddit in terms of discovery.
also it would be nice to have a master list of communities that match the reddit version.
PieFed definitely has better onboarding
I got ip banned for basically nothing. Posted a silly comment about nothing, mod banned me, didn’t realize and posted with the wrong account on the same group happened a couple of times since I was not paying attention, then bam all my accounts were banned for ban evasion. WTF I didn’t even comment anything offensive. Their automatic banning is bullshit. I didn’t do anything horrible enough to be site wide banned.
thats sounds like thier AI banning, they just look commalities amongst all your accounts and ban you, first if you were ban some other account, if any of your others participated in that sub all acc get banned. even if an older account participated in a sub that another account got a banned it.
That’s exactly what happened. I just wasn’t paying attention and made an incident comment (literally “I’m getting old too” ) but because I had been “banned” from that community on another user I was perma banned… I could go back with a burner phone if I wanted but fuck em
its a retroactive bans, which they never done on such a large scale.
I don’t understand why they are banning so many people though, like their whole way to make money is eyeballs on their site, so if you mass ban people you have less people on your site. The banning reasons are so stupid. “You used another account to post on a group you were banned in” without any way to completely block that group from your other accounts so you don’t post there by accident. I had like 8 accounts and I just was not paying that much attention to what groups I was posting to. IP bans should not be allowed on such large social media sites. I could see a reasonable time period, you you used a VPN so therefore you tried to evade a community Ban. you get 1 year ban. But a lifetime ban? That’s ridiculous.
An analyst I follow says if you can’t see logic in a move, chances are you aren’t looking with the right premise. Trying to go by that, at least to me, the only premise that matches their behavior is that they want to destroy their own brand.
But if that’s the case, the whys still evade me. Are they “burning books” so the only truth is of the AI they’re formally feeding? Or perhaps being an open forum, it is a problem with Wiston Smiths about for a while trying to rewrite history? Or perhaps it’s a way to tarnish the image of something that despite its flaws, used to work minimally? Or is management of the company a bunch of trend-chasers in damage control mode?
they went public, so spez mightve want to make the site attractive to buyers/investors, to turn it into an ad slop. now its useful pushing out propaganda(eventually for right wing)
Dust off your VPNs folks, you can still browse old.reddit from a Hong Kong endpoint.
(I probably shouldn’t have mentioned this)
While I think there’s some merit to the idea of talking about the fediverse on corporate legacy social media platforms, I think the best and most effective thing we can do is put in extra effort to engage with the fediverse itself, making posts and comments, building up new communities, and so on.
Reddit is no doubt getting worse and more closed off all the time. They treat their users like shit, or at least, like a resource to be harvested for profit.
But at the same time, Reddit users will sit around complaining about the platform until the cows come up, but when it comes time to do anything about it (like, for example, go check out the fediverse…) they don’t ever take any action. And this problem isn’t unique to Reddit either, people just love to complain about X on X, complain about Facebook on Facebook, complain about Tiktok on Tiktok, etc. It’s hard to tell how much of that is just performative internet shit vs genuine addiction to their particular algorithm of choice, but in my view it’s a real problem…
In other words, the question is “where we should be spending our energy?”
Should we be spending it on Reddit, trying to convince a bunch of people (who frankly range from ambivalent to straight-up addicted) that Reddit sucks? Or should we spend it here on the fediverse building the communities from the ground up?
I mostly agree, but I don’t think it should be 100%. How did any of us get here? Almost certainly it was someone talking on the legacy platforms. We shouldn’t spend time trying to convince people to join, but some people should spend some time spreading the word that the alternatives exist, and why they’re better. Honestly, I don’t think we want the users that need convincing. We do want the users who see the advantage and leave on their own, but they need to know about it first.
The only thing that’s confusing to me, is like there is not a pottery group on here but I have no idea how to make one. I tried to figure it out I have no idea how to make an instance or anything.
when you search for a community, make sure you’re searching “All” communities instead of just “Local” communities
this one already exists !pottery@lemmy.world
THANK YOU! I did look but I don’t understand the fediverse at all. The instances are confusing. Like I joined discuss.online but is that the same as lemmy? Idk I think Reddit has so many users because it’s easy and clear to use
Discuss.Online is one of the BEST instances! It has super-high uptime, meaning the admin team is very highly technically proficient. I left other instances due to very long delays causing problems, but I rarely to never experience such things with Discuss.Online.
In case it helps, Lemmy is the name of the software that is being run, which implements the ActivityPub Protocol that makes the Threadiverse (the threaded conversion style subset of the Fediverse, different from the microblog style of Mastodon) happen. Then Discuss.Online (DO) is the name of the “instance” (a server machine, running Linux as the OS). Our primary admin is I believe m_f, since jgrim the owner stepped back a bit to take care of his newborn child.
DO will share content with everyone else on the Threadiverse - not only other instances running Lemmy software but also PieFed, mBin, nodeBB, soon flarum may be added, and more. That’s the beauty of federation: you aren’t limited to just your instance, or even just Lemmy, you will access all of it, at once. I am not sure how your apps/clients handle things but I know that some of them hide the instance names - you can turn them on if you prefer to see them? It helped me get a better feel for the place - e.g. Lemmy.World holds about half of all users on the Threadiverse, and perhaps 90% of the most active communities (but people are trying to change that, to mix things up so that it’s not all in one place like that!!).
I guess you already know that a “community” is like a “subreddit”, which we denote like c/pottery rather than r/pottery, and then add the instance name. That said, the absolute best way to refer to it is with the exclamation point !, then community name, the at symbol @, then the instance name. This will make a link that anyone from any app can follow to navigate directly to the community. Like this: !pottery@lemmy.world.
DO would be happy to host a potty community here! See in the sidebar text:
A general purpose instance for discovery, fun, & sharing. It’s a welcoming place for all.
Welcome to discuss.online!
Home for interesting conversation, discovery, and fun. Everyone is welcome!
Guidelines
discuss.online aims to enrich the lives of everyone it touches. Please be kind as you use it.
That said, the other community mentioned, the one on Lemmy.world (LW) seems to be struggling mightily, with only a single person posting to it and zero active moderators (the single mod there hasn’t posted or commented anything in the past 3 years). So you might talk to the single person that is posting, Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online (if I had put an at @ symbol in front of their name, it would have tagged them, sending them a notification and making it into a link), and see if they want to collaborate with you, either here on DO or over there on LW. Either way you might make a friend of mutual interest!:-D And/or just start posting in that community and see what happens:-). Others occasionally do that I see, it’s just far more rare. If you did make a community here, expect to have to do similarly: people won’t know right away and you’d be the only one posting for a LONG time, perhaps a year or more. The Threadiverse just does not have a large userbase to support communities, especially outside of tech or politics.
Thank you so so much for your reply. It helped me understand a lot better! I already am using discuss! I really appreciate your answer
You are very welcome! 🤗
To @mangobanana@discuss.online, if you make a community, either the pottery one if you feel like making a second one or any other community, feel free to post about the newly made community to either/both !communitypromo@lemmy.ca and !newcommunities@lemmy.world.
The more people follow a given community, the more it propagates whenever a post is made, and the more it propagates, the higher is the chance of someone feeling like interacting with the community or even following. And making the post to either/both communities helps giving an initial boost, though persistence in keeping posting until it gains traction should still be needed.
Yeah, came to say more or less the same thing. I genuinely believe we’re big enough where we don’t need to tell people we exist. We can spend our time making the fediverse a better place so that anyone coming to look for an alternative to Reddit can look at the fediverse and think “that looks like a cool place”.
We definitely need the 1.0 release of Lemmy now more than ever… Keep up the good work devs btw!
im never going back to ad supported algorithmic brainwashing. decentralized open source, or nothing for me
Good thing piefed.social is following in reddits footsteps! Oh wait that’s really bad
I’m out of the loop. What are they doing…?
CCP-style shadow profiling, among other things.
Trying to recreate a worse version of reddit karma and locking their instance behind a login page/requiring an account to view anything
I just opened piefed.social in a private window and it works fine
Was not like that yesterday
In what way?
I can’t say otherwise you would call it harassment and push for all instances to ban me/anyone else that explains it again
You know, the ways you’ve been told. Are you this dense?
This may be unpopular to say here, but the fediverse needs to be less toxic for the average user. I’m probably going to be downvoted to hell for this, but here goes: the whole tesseract situation was a clusterfuck and the dev is a jackass, but in one regard he is right - there is a toxicity problem. I mean, let’s look at it:
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Lemmy’s main dev is what many would refer to as a tankie. He regularly spreads misinformation, supporting fascist governments, so long as they claim to be socialist or communist - and don’t belong to the west. Anything the West does is, by definition, evil.
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Lemmy’s flagship instance is lemmy.ml. An instance where many communities have a “be nice” rule, but say anything against the (similarly aligned) group think and you’ll be ridiculed, insulted, and banned. Meanwhile, some pretty insane calls for violence stay up. And lemmy.ml isn’t even the worst in that corner of the fediverse.
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There are many other instances that aren’t great, either. Wander into an instance and accidentally say something absolutely factual that someone doesn’t like - ban, because some thin skinned mod sees it as derogatory. Remember the whole dragonfucker saga? Yeah, that’s very off-putting to your average user.
Look, I’m no stranger to Reddit group think, I’ve had it turn on me, and trust me, it’s no fun. Hell, I’ve had it on Facebook back when that was still a thing (yeah, I’m dating myself here). But it was nothing on what I’ve seen on here. I’ve been able to avoid it here (or, sometimes I’ve purposefully wandered into it in an attempt to disrupt an echo chamber, but then I knew exactly what I was getting into and expected as much), but what I saw happening to others - holy shit. I mean, to be fair, the instance I’m on is an instance that very rarely defederates, which I like because I like seeing different viewpoints including ones with which I vehemently disagree with (although the viewpoints are very unbalanced, that does have to be said). But it’s a hell of a lot more fun to not have to keep your guard up all the time.
So, you might argue, be careful which instance you chose. OK, so I chose an instance like Lemmy.world, which as far as Lemmy goes, is definitely more on the normal side of things. But then, who are they federated with? The next rabbit hole. And how do you know which ones have less crazies? Experience. And as a saying goes, experience is what you needed just before you got it. Then many people suggest putting together blocklist and what not. Another rabbit hole. Put briefly: it involves work, a lot of it. People aren’t on Reddit to work (for the most part), they’re there to have fun. If you need to put in so much work, at some point it’s not fun anymore. And that’s what’s off-putting for the typical user.
What can be done to make it more palatable for normal users? I honestly don’t know. I see it as a chicken and egg problem. We need more “normal” people to drown out the crazies, but then the “normal” people won’t come because of the crazies. Maybe Piefed is better in that regard - although I’ve heard there were/are?tesseract-style problems there, as well - I just haven’t had the nerve to go down yet another rabbit hole to figure out what’s actually going on. Which brings us back to square one - that’s already gone way, way too far for the average user. And I can’t exactly blame them. I’m “only” here because I care about open source and decentralisation. And I insist on staying here on matter of principle. But I can’t in good faith recommend it to anyone I know IRL.
Anyway, sorry for the long rant. Maybe someone has some better ideas.
Hell yeah.
The issue with PieFed is that it is “opinionated”. First, most of that is disinformation that the original people refused to correct (last I checked) even after being demonstrably proven wrong, like the main dev Rimu literally showed screenshots of the code to prove that it wasn’t “hard-coded” as they had claimed, but nobody cared. In-group (Lemmy, as in those on the main disinformation spreading platform Lemmy.ml)=good, while out-group (choosing to see PieFed as their “opponent”, despite VEHEMENT claims previously that we all should just try to get along in the Threadiverse and that Lemmy should not be singled out to be criticized in any way, a classic case of one rule for me while a different rule for thee)=bad.
Beyond the disinformation though, the software truly is opinionated. Every such feature is at worst opt-out, and most are even opt-in, but the lack of transparency about the disclosure (vaguely similar to the Tesseract dev scenario as you mentioned, although that one was to an extreme degree) definitely turns people off. Admins of multiple instances were suddenly surprised by the vote quota, not realizing what was happening on their own machines, as this MAJOR structurally breaking and exceedingly poorly and incompletely implemented “feature” was dropped like a bomb onto them, yet with barely any mention, buried like literally 20 items deep into a very long listing along with minutiae - almost like the software didn’t just implement a shadow-censoring change that rejects contributions from both people on the same instance that the community is located on plus EVEN LEMMY (and Mbin, and nodeBB, etc.) but WITHOUT TELLING ANYONE. All because the main dev had an itch to scratch, and then rammed it through despite everyone pushing back majorly in the chats, and despite some VERY well-known and most highly-active contributors on the entire Threadiverse quitting the platform in protest. And then most telling of all is how he responded to people asking about it - note the title of that post is “Upvotes turn green but number doesn’t change”, i.e. this “anti-feature” is causing bugs left and right, breaks the entire model of the ActivityPub Protocol and existing modes of how the Threadiverse has worked until now, and Rimu’s response is that he felt (no evidence btw, see his linked post that fails to demonstrate the premise, as everyone in its comment section agrees) that people were voting too much, so he took that right away, citing how the end-users need to simply “Get creative” and live with the suddenly and only partially implemented and barely announced anti-feature, seemingly created on a whim with no advanced or even current notice as it was being rolled out, and against the advice of pretty much everyone, with the best case scenario being that people are mainly neutral (except like one prominent supporter, but notably I only counted one, vs. like a veritable MOUNTAIN of push-back!!).
So understandably, this kills people’s enthusiasm and worse yet, their hopes that PieFed could be the future of the Threadiverse. One reason for that is that the Lemmy devs are quite opinionated themselves, and have been known to do similarly in the past - e.g. when they implemented an English word slur word filter, which they ACTUALLY did hard-code right in (most of the detractors of PieFed seem to keep claiming that PieFed did this, which it did not, but in contrast Lemmy actually did do that at one point in time), and then moreover adamantly refused to change it, telling people to simply fork the code if they did not like it. Tbf, they did later relent on this and made the feature able to be disabled with an option.
And that is one thing notable about the kind-hearted Rimu: this extremely unpopular and not transparently disclosed at all anti-feature of having implementing a vote quota was made to be opt-out. It would have been better to have made it opt-in, better still to have told people about it properly, even better still to have listened to all the advice and simply not done it at all, especially until it could be done properly, but at least he took the effort to make it able to be easily disabled, by an environmental variable controllable outside of the docker container. That is not nothing. (Edit: I mean to say that it is rather the opposite of nothing: it demonstrates a consideration for the needs of others who may have different viewpoints than the dev - i.e. even while being opinionated, it is not to the same degree as how Lemmy’s slur word filter was handled. Both were imperfect, but managed differently.)
Back to the Lemmy devs now: the software seems equally opinionated to me, although more in the sense of features that it refuses to implement, than in features that it does. e.g. Reddit has no modlog but it does have a modmail, and notifications to the user that their content was moderated, and the ability for anyone with the link to continue to see and even converse in a deleted post. PieFed has roughly half of these features, but Lemmy has zero of them. Lemmy is quite authoritarian in its design philosophy - it offers supreme power to an instance admin (even the ability to hide events from the modlog), somewhat less so to community moderators, but very little to none at all to individual end-users. Like why did the devs decide not to even so much as notify users that they have been banned from an entire instance or community, instead leaving them to find out the hard way? May glorious leader live forever!! The power differential there is extreme - even people using Reddit are granted more rights (e.g. to be notified of removed content) than users of Lemmy?
I am tired of making excuses for Lemmy, as if it will ever get any better. It’s been over three years since the Rexodus and I’ve seen some features actively get worse - e.g. after you banned an entire instance, the people thus “banned” used to not be able to send you DMs and trigger notifications, but then the devs claimed that was confusing and added the ability for these BANNED users to send you DMs and thereby harass you as much as they please from newly-created troll accounts. Lemmy software truly sucks in so many ways.
And recently I am also now tired of defending PieFed as well, after the shadow-censorship of implementing a vote quota without telling anyone or listening to feedback.
But at least both are FOSS, both are free, both provide an alternative to corporate enshittification, while each adding their own forms of enshittification, and each helps people get away from the corporate Algorithm, while substituting that for our own versions of undisclosed Algorithmic control.
And yes, people on the Threadiverse are toxic as fuck. See e.g. my very own reply right now, daring to criticize the devs providing us all with free software, emo-venting my fee-fees all over the place, mixing it together with facts and hopefully not but potentially some anti-facts as well (please do correct me if you see that I am wrong!). Whatever software platform someone is on, I would hope that we would always try to remember the human.
As someone who is not programming literate, using the fetiverse has been very frustrating. It’s very confusing, it’s very difficult to figure out the different categories or whatever they’re called. Reddit is very straightforward basically you want to find out about watercolor painting you type in watercolor painting and there’s a plethora of community as you can join. You need help figuring out how to get around a healthcare denial, and there’s a plethora of information that can help you. Honestly lemmy is not easy to use. Facebook YouTube Google Reddit etc are all very easy platforms for people who are not very computer literate to use. I don’t think it’s inherently lazy, more like inherently easy to use alternatives.
I believe Lemmy has the potential for a wider range of discussion and debate than Reddit, or any other social media platform I’ve been on, simply because of the defederated & community-based system. The issue, as you describe, seems to be saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, which, to be honest, is similar to the real world. There are a lot of topics people probably shouldn’t talk about in public, but it’s normally fine for them to talk about in their chosen groups/community. Lemmy just kind of brings these groups and communities closer together, igniting more discussion, but simultaneously causing issues you describe.
For example, you can’t walk up to a group of homosexuals and try to convince them they shouldn’t be gay. You can discuss topics related to LGBT+ rights of course, but there are definitely off-limit discussions in that group, same as any other group. I think it’s a matter of paying attention to where you are in the Fediverse and who may be reading your response before blurting out what’s on your mind.
On the comment about tessaract; I cannot agree on the idea that the dev of tessaract was “right” about toxicity. Even if he was, he was in no place to take it into his own hands to address (especially in a secretive way). Lemmy is a community-based platform and we need to figure that stuff out as a community. We don’t have a corporate-level moderation team ensuring the platform is safe for those under 18, and we don’t have anyone enforcing political views in any way other than in specific communities (who have every right to enforce their chosen views). Just as some say we wouldn’t need police if we had strong communities, the same goes here, strong communities are the key. If you see a lot of toxicity where you browse, maybe your chosen community just isn’t a healthy one.
I believe Lemmy has the potential for a wider range of discussion and debate than Reddit, or any other social media platform I’ve been on, simply because of the defederated & community-based system.
In theory, I agree with you - and that was my very hope when I first got into the fediverse. Unfortunately, the reality has proven to be different…
The issue, as you describe, seems to be saying the wrong thing in the wrong place, which, to be honest, is similar to the real world.
Except it’s much, much worse than in the real world. I’ve been in circles with right wingers, and I am notoriously stubborn about not hiding my viewpoint (which very often clashes with that of right wingers), and even there the reaction is less crazy than on Lemmy.
For example, you can’t walk up to a group of homosexuals and try to convince them they shouldn’t be gay.
That’s not the kind of thing I’m talking about. Of course something like that would go over like a lead balloon - in that case also because that’s borderline in factual in its assumptions. A better comparison would be a conversation naturally wondering to the risks of anal sex if not done carefully and being chastised and banned for that.
Even if he was, he was in no place to take it into his own hands to address (especially in a secretive way).
I neither said nor implied that, in fact I said quite the opposite…
If you see a lot of toxicity where you browse, maybe your chosen community just isn’t a healthy one.
And that’s exactly the problem. More work. More digging. More research. People come to these sites to have fun and often don’t have the patience nor the interest to filter through all the communities.
I think we may just not view Lemmy in the same way. I don’t see these sites as “fun”. Sure there are funny memes, but it’s also news and meta discussions about very recent topics. If I wanted to open something to have fun it’d probably be a video game or something.
Big tech makes it easy for people to use. They want the biggest and bestest userbases with the simplest interface… Lemmy does not care how big it is, it’s all about organic growth, and Lemmy by itself doesn’t have a very nice interface. I’d bet most people come here because they want to get away from the others, not because they want to add it to their list of feeds to browse. That being said, people making an effort to get away from the biggest and easiest platforms are probably more likely to put effort in to cater their feeds to their own interests and viewpoints.
Also I must’ve misunderstood your comment on Patrick originally so that’s my bad.
Lemmy does not care how big it is, it’s all about organic growth
There’s no organic growth on Lemmy, the userbase was slowly shrinking since the APIcalypse. New users are largely those who were banned from Reddit.
That being said, people making an effort to get away from the biggest and easiest platforms are probably more likely to put effort in to cater their feeds to their own interests and viewpoints.
Nah, you only think so because people who got here but weren’t ready to put so much effort into switching left Lemmy in disappointment.
I believe in reality, the kneejerk reddit mod multiban just transitioned seamlessly into fediverse multibans and defederations - I know, who could’ve foreseen such shit. Some defederation happened for good reasons, but I’ve been cluster banned from a bunch of communities I never even been in as a “lemmy.world zionist”, apparently, and that last bit is news to me at least. People bring their sad, incredibly petty bullshit with them.
People here are no fonder of “alternate viewpoints” than on reddit, you can tell the hivemind kicking in just from the person who pointed out a couple of blatantly realistic issues 8 seconds ago.
Speaking as a ln anarchist/council communist… There are some good instances and I simply don’t see the bad ones if I’m on an instance acc with good defaults.
I don’t view it as problematic if people are put off by Lemmy holding more normal, less capitalist and less reactionary views.
That said, in terms of preference, I’ll pick free communist groups over tankies and liberals (I decline to ever consider fascists an option at all).
In these dark times I’m not quite sure whether we can afford to lose what allies we have. But we do need to mold what can be sympathetic to our progressive and left-wing causes.
Piefed is problematic for me - although it has a lot of modern features, I oppose the karma system there. I prefer a system that cannot be abused by bots.
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