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  • it doesn’t do that. most business owners and home owners are not above others nor do they cause other people suffering.

    some people are abusive and exploitative, yes. that is regardless of their financial status.

    And who judges all of this? I work in medical trials. Is my job causing other people to suffer because we have them go on experimental treatments that might not improve their chances of beating a disease? is my job evil or something because it’s not feeding the homeless? according to some of my ex girlfriends, my job was causing them suffering because I wasn’t making enough money to buy them expensive things like Audis and go on trips to Bali … are they right? They also got very angry when I suggest that they if we lived together we should split costs, even when they made more money than I did, and their reasoning was that because I’m male and I’m advantaged in life therefore I should be giving them my money and I should be doing everything I can to make more money, and give to them because they deserve it more than I do.


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    I’m not currently a landlord and don’t intend to be one ever again unless my circumstance sharing housing with someone else.

    You simply don’t think economic relationships should exist at all, and probably think people shouldn’t have to breathe oxygen or eat food. I mean that’s a nice sentiment, but good luck making any of that real I guess?


  • according to many other random people here, I should be murdered and killed because I own property that I live in, and they think that’s correct because of some theory they believe in and/or they feel like they ‘deserve’ it more because their efforts are heroic and good and my efforts were bad and evil.

    what they really mean is ‘I wish I had the power to kill and murder people who had more than I do because I’m bitter and blame others for my failings and refuse to take responsibility for my inability to provide for myself. So I’ll just sit around and fantasize and wish violence on others in my head and be abusive on the internet.’

    Sitting around and fantasizing about a prefect world in which your life will be a wonderful and happy is a lot easier… than actually making your life better though work.


  • ok, so if i come over and murder you and steal all your shit, you’re perfectly OK with that? As long, as I think it’s moral to do that, we’re good right?

    Good to know. All you are making an argument for is total chaos where everyone’s feelings are all that matters, and it’s ok to do whatever i want to anyone as long as any of us feel it’s good to do that thing.

    I bought a home and then rented my spare bedroom. No theft was involved and nobody’s money was involved other than my own and my renters. I also paid taxes on my rental income. Taxes you benefit from and I’m sure I pay a lot more tax than you do.



  • It entirely depends on the house. Some people get bankrupted by their homes, some get really lucky and have very low maintenance costs. When I rented I had something like 60%+ disposable income.

    Sounds like you are very economically well-off, and you can likely afford to outsource your labor and upkeep. I could not. I had more free money and time when I rented because I cannot afford to higher maids, landscapers, and etc. I do almost every minor repair myself, including plumbing and electrical and I absolutely dread the day I will have to replace a roof or do another very costly repair and it sucks to have to have a pile of money I have to keep aside for that, when I’d rather use it for something enjoyable. Owning a home has seriously impacted my ability to vacation and travel in both terms of money and time to the point I haven’t left the country in 5 years. I am ‘wealtheir’ on paper, but that wealth doesn’t do much for me in my day to day life. My 8 grand a month income does less for me than my 2 grand a month income did for me 10 years ago, because so much of it is sunk into my home.


  • pretty much. they cosplay at being working-class/poor because it makes them feel like they aren’t rich douchebags like their parents, and once it gets old/difficult/mom and dad get mad, they ‘grow up’ and stop doing it.

    I am in my 40s and I meet a lot of trustafians. they get so ANGRY when they realize I am not like them and I’m some ‘loser’ who made my own way up in life with hard work and didn’t spend my 20s partying and traveling and working low-income jobs because it was ‘authentic’. i had a low income job because it was the only one I could get until I had enough experience to get a better paying job.

    my rebelling was going to college and working my ass off, because my parents were uneducated lazy morons.




  • You’re not wrong. I do some of those things.

    But the problem is most of my peers disagree with me. The majority of people in my city are against opening up zoning restrictions. My opinions is in the minority, and I am not economically powerfully enough to have much influence over politicians or voters.

    And this includes many of my so called leftist progressive peers. many of my leftist friends are adamantly against zoning reform, and they, like landlords, want more restricted development. when i express my opinion on expanding housing supply they tell me I’m greedy and evil and that what we need is rent controls and no new development and that nobody should be allowed to move here who doesn’t already live here. and this is all local politics, not federal stuff.



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    based in that you actually brought facts and context to the discussion.

    housing values detached from inflation starting in the early 1990s, which is when housing starts started to decline and population and economy grew a lot.

    it’s too much money chasing too few homes due to economic changes in the 1980s and 1990s that vastly financialized the economy and homes became investment class assets rather than fixed assets, which they had been historically. Fixed assets typically retain value over time only see returns that are approximate to inflation, like a savings account. Homes used be savings accounts, now they are more like stocks.

    all of this can be fixed with changes in economic policy. but nobody wants those changes because deflating the housing market would cripple the economy because so much wealth is locked up in housing values. housing values are so high, and rents are so high, because people are willing to pay those prices and people are actively against new housing supply construction.

    markets where housing supply has been less restricted, saw far less price inflation than those markets where housing was highly restricted.


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    what class status are you?

    do you intend to forever be that status, or do you aspire to become a higher status?

    i’ve been multiple status and i know people from all different statuses over the year. they are far more alike than they are different and most people who swap status become the thing they claimed to hate when they were poor.

    and a lot of people are straight up delusional wrong about their status. I’ve met people who have millions of dollars who think they are struggling working-class people. I have family members who have about 50 million dollars, who think they are poor working class proletariat, just like you do. Same family who also lecture me about what a rich snob I am when my net worth is about 1/100th of theirs. I also have had friends and romantic partners who grew up poorer than I did, who think I’m a poor loser piece of shit because the home I own is only worth about 500K, meanwhile they had no home and 100K+ of debt and they blame everyone but themselves for their self-imposed poverty, while claiming those who are more objectively successful than they are, are all poor losers because they aren’t richer.





  • tankies don’t believe in work and effort.

    they believe they should be given things for free, because work and effort is bad and wrong. because if they don’t do it, nobody should! the idea of making something of yourself is evil and capitalist! just sit on your butt and day dream and don’t true to improve your life, because that’s evil capitalism!


  • so why don’t you go into some state owned land and live off the land in a tent?

    according to your worldview everyone who owns anything and uses it to economic benefit for themselves is evil and wrong.

    and yet i highly doubt you yourself aren’t doing that on a daily basis, nor have you structure your own personal life in a perfectly just way.


  • Anarchists all agree that anyone else who claims to be an anarchist isn’t an anarchist.

    That’s about the only consistent think I’ve ever heard about Anarchists.

    Which is why they overlap with Punks a lot. Punks favorite think to do is talk about how punk they are and how other punks aren’t punk.

    Both things aren’t an ideology over a political movement. They are vanity label that stands for nothing other than being ‘against’ things.

    and we all can agree that Tankies are complete nutjobs.

    Anarchists by bare definition are not anti-anything except permanent rules and laws. Banning rentals would make you a tyrant and Anarchists would hang you for that.


  • People who believe in idealizes theory don’t care about facts or a complex reality.

    They just think that stuff is fake or lies and will be swept away but the glory of the revolution when all the evil awful people own property get it stolen from them and it’s handed out to the TRULY DESERVING people, like themselves. Who are so pure and wonderful and good… they’d never seek ownership or profit.