As the future becomes less certain and less secure due to climate change and capitalist overextension, basically every major government is looking for ways to efficiently control their populace through technology. Arguably the countries with the strongest totalitarian tools would be the most suited to weather that long-term catastrophe.
Can’t riot about access to food if everyone who so much as says an idle word in their own home is put on a “reeducation” pathway.
Palestine is the testing grounds for surveillance, drones, weaponry, and testing how public opinion will be around a crisis & genocide. Now they’re planning to test it upon their own citizens once they finish moving/genociding immigrants.
Look, I said that I can travel to China without getting arrested. That is a fact. I can’t say the same about the USA. If they knew I was coming to the states they would also know what I’ve posted and liked with 90% certainty, and believe me, they don’t want someone who’s been this deep into “anti-capitalism” as me entering the country. The United States government has more than enough reasons to go full stick instead of carrot when we consider its failing economy and the rebirth of social movements.
I know what I can expect in China, I know that they won’t arrest someone because they once posted a picture of a yellow umbrella or liked a John Oliver video. That is too much of a hassle and China is currently liberalising, just like Kuwait and Qatar. Plans about opening the great firewall up have been floated again and again, and authorities are seriously considering doing that.
Plus you’re are completely, and I hope I don’t sound too much like a stereotypical ML – which I am not despite being on lemmy.ml – ignoring the CIA and DHS. Two, as it were, secret federal agencies with powers that go well beyond what the FBI or ATF can do. These have existed for decades. States simply have secret polices.
Nope. Proud Boys are the brown shirts. Non-governmental paramilitary fighters.
FBI was an actual law enforcement organization, but has been gutted.
The CIA isn’t a boogie man inside the US. They’ve fucked up enough times that very few people respect them. Also they don’t really do domestic spying.
No, the NSA is the one who does domestic spying.
And finally ICE, an agency that is 100% filled with diehard Trump supporters. They’re already abducting innocent people off the street and vanishing them. Masked thugs working for the state vanishing people without warrants is sort of the basic definition of secret police.
China was the testbed. All of them are doing the same thing
As the future becomes less certain and less secure due to climate change and capitalist overextension, basically every major government is looking for ways to efficiently control their populace through technology. Arguably the countries with the strongest totalitarian tools would be the most suited to weather that long-term catastrophe.
Can’t riot about access to food if everyone who so much as says an idle word in their own home is put on a “reeducation” pathway.
Palestine is the testing grounds for surveillance, drones, weaponry, and testing how public opinion will be around a crisis & genocide. Now they’re planning to test it upon their own citizens once they finish moving/genociding immigrants.
Not a China fan, but at least I can travel to China without getting arrested.
That’s only true if you only do and say things online that China approves of.
China has secret police, and has for decades.
ICE is Trump’s attempt at creating a secret police.
Look, I said that I can travel to China without getting arrested. That is a fact. I can’t say the same about the USA. If they knew I was coming to the states they would also know what I’ve posted and liked with 90% certainty, and believe me, they don’t want someone who’s been this deep into “anti-capitalism” as me entering the country. The United States government has more than enough reasons to go full stick instead of carrot when we consider its failing economy and the rebirth of social movements.
I know what I can expect in China, I know that they won’t arrest someone because they once posted a picture of a yellow umbrella or liked a John Oliver video. That is too much of a hassle and China is currently liberalising, just like Kuwait and Qatar. Plans about opening the great firewall up have been floated again and again, and authorities are seriously considering doing that.
Plus you’re are completely, and I hope I don’t sound too much like a stereotypical ML – which I am not despite being on lemmy.ml – ignoring the CIA and DHS. Two, as it were, secret federal agencies with powers that go well beyond what the FBI or ATF can do. These have existed for decades. States simply have secret polices.
I’m one of the people who always says that Lenin was a fucking monster, and that no authoritarian can ever be communist. Which includes China.
I’m 100% sure that if I ever found myself going to China, I’d be arrested for calling Xi a fascist poo bear playing pretend at communism.
I’m also quite certain that come November Trump will start working up to arresting people for things said online. I’m sure I’ll be at risk for calling him a pedo and posting this link; https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2016/10/6/1578544/-The-Untold-Story-of-Trump-Model-Management-A-Daily-Kos-Exclusive-Part-1
ICE are just brownshirts, you’re thinking of the CIA and FBI.
Nope. Proud Boys are the brown shirts. Non-governmental paramilitary fighters.
FBI was an actual law enforcement organization, but has been gutted.
The CIA isn’t a boogie man inside the US. They’ve fucked up enough times that very few people respect them. Also they don’t really do domestic spying.
No, the NSA is the one who does domestic spying.
And finally ICE, an agency that is 100% filled with diehard Trump supporters. They’re already abducting innocent people off the street and vanishing them. Masked thugs working for the state vanishing people without warrants is sort of the basic definition of secret police.
ICE? You seem to be forgetting at least the NSA.
Didn’t forget them, they’re not sending masked thugs to vanish people from the street.
The NSA is a spy org, but not full of Trump loyalists.
Trump is focusing on ICE, because it is full of specifically Trump loyalists.
China has been proposing its surveillance model to other countries through their new silk roads (or whatever the name is)
Belt and road