• distal@lemmy.ml
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    8 hours ago

    Not a China fan, but at least I can travel to China without getting arrested.

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      7 hours ago

      That’s only true if you only do and say things online that China approves of.

      China has secret police, and has for decades.

      ICE is Trump’s attempt at creating a secret police.

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        2 hours ago

        Look, I said that I can travel to China without getting arrested. That is a fact. I can’t say the same about the USA. If they knew I was coming to the states they would also know what I’ve posted and liked with 90% certainty, and believe me, they don’t want someone who’s been this deep into “anti-capitalism” as me entering the country. The United States government has more than enough reasons to go full stick instead of carrot when we consider its failing economy and the rebirth of social movements.

        I know what I can expect in China, I know that they won’t arrest someone because they once posted a picture of a yellow umbrella or liked a John Oliver video. That is too much of a hassle and China is currently liberalising, just like Kuwait and Qatar. Plans about opening the great firewall up have been floated again and again, and authorities are seriously considering doing that.

        Plus you’re are completely, and I hope I don’t sound too much like a stereotypical ML – which I am not despite being on lemmy.ml – ignoring the CIA and DHS. Two, as it were, secret federal agencies with powers that go well beyond what the FBI or ATF can do. These have existed for decades. States simply have secret polices.

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          6 hours ago

          Nope. Proud Boys are the brown shirts. Non-governmental paramilitary fighters.

          FBI was an actual law enforcement organization, but has been gutted.

          The CIA isn’t a boogie man inside the US. They’ve fucked up enough times that very few people respect them. Also they don’t really do domestic spying.

          No, the NSA is the one who does domestic spying.

          And finally ICE, an agency that is 100% filled with diehard Trump supporters. They’re already abducting innocent people off the street and vanishing them. Masked thugs working for the state vanishing people without warrants is sort of the basic definition of secret police.

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          6 hours ago

          Didn’t forget them, they’re not sending masked thugs to vanish people from the street.

          The NSA is a spy org, but not full of Trump loyalists.

          Trump is focusing on ICE, because it is full of specifically Trump loyalists.