• BigBoyShuanzee@aussie.zone
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    I will always ALWAYS call Israel a terrorist state. Fuck Israel. Glad I can say this here… Reddit would ban me.

    Fuck Israel, Fuck Netanyahu! Israel is the new Nazis!

    I really didn’t wish I had to say this message over and fucking over but seriously fuck Israel.

    I’m against every religion on earth but I’m also against evil nazi-level sadistic Israelis killing children even more. I’m also against Islamic people wanting to marry children and I’m against the Catholic church wanting to rape children.

    You’re all evil.

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      For all of Lindsey Graham’s and MAGA’s constant screaming that Iran is “the biggest state sponsor of terror,” it’s clear to the entire world that that title is held by the United States first, and Israel second. No nation commits more terrorism that America and Israel. It’s not even close.

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    These are Nazis. Evey IDF soldier should be arrested for crimes against humanity. End dual citizenship now

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      These are Nazis

      Ironically, the person who pioneered the study on trauma is a son of a Holocaust survivor. His first observation on the effects of trauma was when his father told him to follow orders just because. He told his dad that he sounded like the Nazis who imprisoned him.

      Unfortunately, Israel became the very thing they hate. And for as long as I can remember, I have thought that “you become what you hate”, which is what most people are afraid to think about.

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        Victims do become perpertators, and are then punished too. They get double-fucker.

        Amazing how you can make someone evil with enough torture.

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        You know this was happening before the Holocaust, right? Zionism emerged in the late-nineteenth and early-twentieth centuries as ethnic Jewish people began emigrating to Palestine in larger numbers during a period of increased discrimination across Europe, the Balfour Declaration was in 1917. Colonialism is fundamentally genocidal, and this was not inspired by the Holocaust, merely energized by it.

        Israel is a genocidal, settler-colonial state, not Harvey Dent.

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          I don’t know, there is too much noise with regards to who has the rights on the land etc. As someone from Ireland, I see a huge parallel with Israel-Palestine conflict and the Northern Ireland conflict from thirty years ago. To oversimplify the latter, it was a conflict between the mostly Protestant pro-British versus the mostly Irish nationalist Catholics. The conflict in Northern Ireland was centuries in the making which peaked and pretty much stopped in 1990s when both communities reconciled and let go of revanchism; agreeing that no one side will dominate over the other and to agree mutually.

          Scholars from both Palestinian and Israeli sides advocate to emulate the peaceful resolution on Israel and Palestine like that in Northern Ireland (which I think most people brush aside when brought up because the Northern Ireland Troubles happened long ago, or the person being told has too much emotion invested on siding either Palestine or Israel). Nonetheless, two state solution as already insisted upon by the UN, or power sharing like in Northern Ireland, whichever-- just stop the killing. The main issue is there is too much had blood between Israelis and Palestinians to see reason. It already happened and it’s like trying to abort a baby already born. We can’t kick out Israelis in the same way as we can’t kick out Afrikaners from South Africa, or the pro-British Northern Irish, or black, brown or white people from Americas, New Zealand and Australia-- countries which have more recent history of settler colonial foundation. Heck, most of the world is arguably settler colonial. Ainus came first before the now dominant Yamato people settled Japan. Even before brown people came to South East Asia, there are already black people living in the region.

          I’m going on a bit of a rant and say the problem is the tribalistic mind from our unevolved lizard brain is having difficulty evolving with modern realities and progress of time. We still think a piece of rock is our own territory as if we’re still tiny animals fighting over a one metre rock.

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          *zionists would be more accurate.

          There is historical precedent but with some nuance.

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haavara_Agreement

          Inscription : “A Nazi goes to Palestine”

          The nuance is that the coin likely was made as a propaganda piece by the nazis to mock the jews who sided with them.

          Still the agreement between the zionist german bank and the nazis did break the anti-nazi boycott held in multiple countries and allowed many zionist who where prosecuted jews to transfer some of their economic assets to Palestine and migrate with the explicit intention to form Israel.

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            Still the agreement between the zionist german bank and the nazis did break the anti-nazi boycott held in multiple countries

            WTF

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              This is one of the big general issues of financial sanctions. If you can not transfer money out of the country, it becomes really hard to leave. You need some money to set yourself up in the country you are going to after all.

              That is currently a big issue for Russians, who want to leave the country.

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    the colonizer who allegedly

    …BUT

    Corroborated by multiple witnesses.

    What the fuck, tired of seeing language devices like “allegedly” being used to frame reporting of this genocide. Free Palestine! And fuck off jizzrael

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        Lol. Again this statement could be corroborated – by his baby mammas 🤢. Though I wouldn’t bat an eye at something about Musk

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    And yet when Palestinians express hatred for Israelis it’s categorized as antisemitism.

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      And there’s more Semite blood in Palestinians than in most of the inhabitants of Israel

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      I mean, no, when Palestinians express hatred of Jews it’s categorized as antisemitism, which it should be. It’s essentially inevitable given, well, everything, but still.

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        Every israeli settler is a jew, but not every jew is an israeli settler, and I don’t think Palestinians hate anybody but the settlers.

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          I mean it’s hard to find data that doesn’t come from people like the Anti-defamation League (whose claims should obviously be dismissed), so you’ll have to make do with examples, but there are plenty of examples:

          In July 1990, the Palestinian Liberation Organization-affiliated Palestinian Red Crescent published an article in its magazine Balsam claiming that Jews concocted, “The lie concerning the gas chambers.” Gradually, throughout the 1990s, Holocaust denial became commonplace in popular media in the Middle East, particularly in the Palestinian Authority.

          The Grand Mufti of Jerusalem Sheikh Ekrima Sa’id Sabri appeared on the Saudi satellite channel Al-Majd on February 20, 2005, commenting on the assassination of the former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri. “Anyone who studies The Protocols of the Elders of Zion and specifically the Talmud,” he said, “will discover that one of the goals of these Protocols is to cause confusion in the world and to undermine security throughout the world.”

          Now it’s possible that these statements by political and religious leaders don’t represent the broader populace, but nothing I’ve seen suggests this, nor would it track with the attitude of other peoples who have suffered oppression for a long time. The opposite would also track with the long history of Palestinian terror attacks (not resistance, which is obviously valid and just, but specifically the terror attacks, which BTW aren’t restricted to Hamas); the assumption seems to be that most if not all Jews are Zionists out for their blood. The problem here is that the only Jews the vast majority of Palestinians will interact with or see in the news are murderous Zionists, so the mental model of “Jew = murderous Zionist” works well enough to just be accepted as fact.

          Edit: Slight rephrasing, content is the same.

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            The opposite would also track with the long history of Palestinian terror attacks (not resistance, which is obviously valid and just, but specifically the terror attacks, which BTW aren’t restricted to Hamas)

            Tell me more about those Palestinian terror attacks that are not resistance. When did they happen? And what makes you think some fighting is resistance, and some isn’t? Are you a specialist in resistance?

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                if somebody took your home, killed your Grandparents, killed your Father, raped your Mother, put your brother in a prison, without process or any chance of defense, and shot your youngest baby while harassing your village to make you leave, because they want to colonize even more of your people’s land, do you think you’d care of what helped or didn’t help your cause?

                And as a matter of fact, there is nothing a Palestinian can do to help the Palestinian cause. They get raped, killed, beaten, amputated, arrested, humiliated, their land stolen, and governments around the world still support Israel, and do NOTHING to help Palestinians. This is going on for close to 80 years now.

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                  do you think you’d care of what helped or didn’t help your cause?

                  I mean I hope I would, but also that has nothing to do with what I said. The fact that Palestinian antisemitism is rooted in their legitimate anger against their oppressors doesn’t make it any less antisemitic.

                  And as a matter of fact, there is nothing a Palestinian can do to help the Palestinian cause.

                  That is completely false. October 7th (and the predictably genocidal backlash to it) essentially expanded the Palestinian solidarity movement by an order of magnitude, and before that the Second Intifada caused Israel to withdraw from Gaza and the First Intifada and the Second Intifada lead to Israel making concessions to Palestinians for the first time ever (the Oslo Accords, as much of a half-measure as they were). Moving away from violent resistance, BDS keeps expanding year after year, costing Israel billions of dollars (though admittedly this is more limited than most of us would like).

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    Can we just call them terrorists or invaders? How would you call me, if I’ve invaded your house, assaulted, humiliated and drove you off?