• Pirate2377@lemmy.zip
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    I feel like if Trump tried to order that, even his cultists in the us army would refuse to risk the end of the world over losing in the midterms, but maybe even the little tiny faith I have in MAGA to not start a nuclear war for their daddy god emperor is too high. We’ll see I guess

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    First, Israel/Netanyahu’s only objective for Iran war was to reset it to stone age so as no obstacles to its Greater Israel project or palestinian extermination program remained.

    Article does not portray TC as informed in any realism. Pickaxe mountain target is set as a “victory bomb and retreat” campaign. This does not meet Israel’s ambitions. It can probably be attacked by conventional weapons as strike is performative anyway. A ground burst nuclear detonation is extreme evil because it contaminates the region for 1000s of years. Nuclear strikes on Japan were air bursts. People moved to Nagasaki and Hiroshima a week after, when the fires were out, with no abnormal health effects.

    Russia nuking Ukraine in response has no sense. There are supposed red lines to nuke Israel by Pakistan, out loud, and whispers of China and Russia red lines for the same.

    With those flaws, its enough to assume everything is made up.

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    I imagine Putin’s quite happy ‘lending’ Iran a nuclear weapon so they can yeet it at Israel as a response to an American nuclear strike.

    With the rest of the west condemning ‘both sides’ it catastrophically brings down the whole western hegemony.

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    so there’s no wind that blows radioactive debri between Iran and Israel?

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    That would wreck all of that oil pumping infrastructure, and all of those poorly paid workers pumping that oil would die.

    I don’t think that’s very likely.

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      He cashed out a while ago. Tuckers allegiance has always been to the dollar. It is always profitable to be the opposition so that’s what he does. He has no real morals or values.

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      This it what drives me about the left. The average leftist is much less informed about stuff like this than people on the right.

      It’s like people on the left went from being super politically active and informed to casual observer while the right flipped.

      I keep seeing comments like this on leftists spaces where people have no idea what the fuck is going on meanwhile rightwing spaces are 8 layers deep in conspiracy but it’s all based on actual informative stuff that’s happening, it’s just twisted to suit themselves. The left is super cooked even if they start securing wins. People on the left just don’t have the ability to do what past generations could. They don’t like conflict. They want to do disengage and forget about it all during a time when maximum attention is required.

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        I’m talking about Tucker Carlson specifically. This is a person with a history of lying and deceiving for profit. A person I’m better off not listening to even when they are crying wolf.

        What I’m not talking about are vague amalgamations of millions of people.

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          I like that. But I’m not wrong. Compare any left wing comment section to a right wing one when a new event occurs and you’ll see it.

          Just look at people here. It’s passive engagent. The right are actively engaged. Hell just look up content alone. Theirs is much more creative the left is more generic and what has it produced lately? The right have all kinds of IP? Not sure if that’s the right word but it’s all owned by the right like pepe and such. The left just isn’t producing they’re consuming. Deny it all you want. Argue because you’re on the left, never thought about it and jus want to react. But I’m right.

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            You can’t possibly believe that conservatives, who by definition have to believe lies like trickle down economics and how trans people are responsible for gas price hikes rather than a war in the middle east, are more informed than the left.

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              Absolutely I can. And I know it is. If you want information and you start going to left and right spaces I will guarantee the right wing space will be more informative in real time. The left catches up way after. But there is no insight from the left until the right wing spaces back the story.

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                Alright man I’ll bite. Please link me some of these con spaces that get to the truth of a breaking news story before the left.

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                Yes, Fox News spins lies before the truth is known. The fact that you are proud of that says everything.

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    This makes sense.

    Losses mid term, launches nuclear war head at Iran, uses it as a pretense for martial law. I need to get my passports in order.

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        This is the honest but scary take. If you follow other regimes around the world, waiting until martial law is far too late. Your ability to move unrestricted is generally impeded by that point.

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        “For that reason”…. 4 years ago is a broad guess for that. It could be another 10-20 years and then you’ll be “see! See! I was right” even though it may not be any reason you thought of.

        • I started getting ready to leave in March 2020, as Biden secured the Dem nomination.

          Because at that point it was obvious that either (a) Biden would lose to Trump (absent COVID, he would have) or (b) would win, deliver nothing, and the GOP would be back in power in 2024 with little to stop them.

          The US is in worse state that I thought it would be at this point. tbh.

        • I started getting ready to leave in March 2020, as Biden secured the Dem nomination.

          Because at that point it was obvious that either (a) Biden would lose to Trump (absent COVID, he would have) or (b) would win, deliver nothing, and the GOP would be back in power in 2024 with little to stop them.

          The US is in worse state that I thought it would be at this point. tbh.

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          Right right “We can all clearly see where this is going but we don’t know when it will arrive. Best get out ahead of time, it’s better than waiting till it’s too late.”

          You: “Nooo, that’s totally unreasonable! We might have all the time in the world! Stay stay, once it’s too late then you can try to get to safety.”

          What a stupid take.

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          Anyone paying attention could’ve seen this coming 15 years ago. I’ve been talking about this while I was getting arrested on the Brooklyn bridge at Occupy in 2011 and everyone rolled their eyes at us. And so little has changed - workers are still willingly making billionaires richer and more powerful. 4 years ago is late af if you ask me.

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      It makes zero sense, don’t be a sucker.

      Think of all of that oil pumping infrastructure, hundreds of billions of dollars, pumping oil every day.

      They won’t destroy that if there are other options. There are other options.

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        The alternative is Trump going to jail for raping children and the rest of his cabinet for conspiracy. Do you think Trump wouldn’t rather destroy the world than see a day inside a cell? Because we’re all fucked if Americans do anything less than physically drag Trump into prison ASAP, but Americans would rather let the world be destroyed than rise up against their precious leader.

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        The oil infrastructure in Iran, you mean? Built and owned by Iran, not the USA? Why wouldn’t they want to destroy that? Or are you talking about Iranian retaliation on Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrein, etc oil pumps?

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      They built Israel for a reason, it’s doing its job.

      Israel has less money than California, perhaps you should adjust your perception to align with reality as we know it.

      Tiny countries with no money don’t control massive countries with big piles of money, come on now. It’s never happened, and it never will.

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      theyd rather watch cat videos than be patriots, its the constitutions only weakness.

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    Man I just love living nearby to a uranium enrichment facility. It’s nice to know I’ll be killed in the first nuclear exchange instead of having to suffer the aftermath.

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    He really doesn’t want anyone to know he’s a pedophile. Dude, we already know.

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        He already has by cheating his way into a second term… by doing so he avoided prosecution. Now he’s been ending the world ever since.

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      It’s got nothing to do with what people know, everything he’s done is out there and only the willfully ignorant avoid it. The idea he cares about hiding it is crazy at this point.

      He refuses to not be in power, he’s scared that his power will be taken away, and maybe fear a small chance he’ll actually face consequences.

      That’s what it’s about.