• MrSulu@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    We ALL ‘feel’ that the Ukrainians have been screwed by Trump.

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      23 hours ago

      Is that why men are dressing like old women in public and drowning in rivers trying to escape Ukraine?

      If they can vote in Eurovision singing contests then they can vote for a government.

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        21 hours ago

        It’s against their constitution. Russia is propagating that idea and you’re spreading it

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          21 hours ago

          Eurovision is in their constitution? 😂

          The coup was against the constitution. Banning elections is something added by those who overthrew the elected government.

          This being the first time you’ve been told that speaks volumes about your own conditioning from propaganda.

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            20 hours ago

            Stop being manipulative. You were suggesting they hold elections.

            And why are you belittling me. Like the things you’ve said haven’t been pushed by Russian and far right wing Americans for 6 years.

            Manipulative bs is all you’re doing.

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              I don’t understand this fabricated connection with right wing America. Go to Intel Slava’s Telegram channel. It’s the height of Russian Z fan clubs. They hate Trump just as much as you and I do.

              Yes, Ukrainians should be allowed to express their basic democratic human right of self determination, and not treated like neofeudal corporate serfs to Blackrock. Victory or death? Fuck off.

              Ukrainians cannot vote. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the state. Men are drowning in rivers trying to escape this fascist death cult. It’s everything you’ve convinced yourself Russia is doing, but isn’t. Every fascist accusation is a confession, from MAGA to Zionists to Banderites.

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                19 hours ago

                You know what would stop it? Russia could go back to Russia and quit their attempts at seizing sovereign Ukrainian territory. .ml says you’re unlikely to agree that the aggressor could stop aggressing and fuckoff back to their country at which point withheld elections could happen. Ps. Most countries withhold elections during national emergencies even Russia.

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                    19 hours ago

                    No international body accepts the donbas or crimea votes and they’re very suspicious just generally if you actually look at the numbers and how they came about. Wagner, russias blackrock use Nazi imagery and murder their own on video with sledgehammers. To add to that there is no evidence of systemic Nazism anymore than any other European nation including Russia. Mother that doesn’t give Russia the right to invade, at all ever and in fact they signed a treaty specifically to not get involved in Ukraine at all.

                    They certainly do, they have a right to exist without being murdered in an invasion into their homeland either.

                    That’s a fun non answer. Russia the objective invader and aggressor could simply leave Ukraine could they not?

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                    18 hours ago

                    They invaded a sovereign nation for a claim they still can’t prove , they have literally everything to do with Ukraine right now given the fact they invaded it

                    I must have missed NATO invading Russia, when exactly did that happen?