You know what would stop it? Russia could go back to Russia and quit their attempts at seizing sovereign Ukrainian territory.
.ml says you’re unlikely to agree that the aggressor could stop aggressing and fuckoff back to their country at which point withheld elections could happen. Ps. Most countries withhold elections during national emergencies even Russia.
Banderites from Lvov are the invaders to people who actually live in the Donbass.
People have a right to exist, not nations.
These folks have not been Ukrainian since 2014. The Banderites call them “waiters” disparagingly. They wait for liberation, refusing to relocate West no matter the danger. And this is why the war has seen the lowest civilian death rate than any other major conflict in modern history. This is what waging war against an adversary you still see as human looks like, the exact opposite of Gaza. This is what a war of liberation looks like.
The victims in Bucha were “waiters”, found with hands bound with white cloth designating them as non-combatants to Russian forces. They were found dead lying next to Russian humanitarian rations.
They absolutely are Ukrainian because no international body accepts the sham referendum. They could leave and go to Russia, they can’t however cede territory they have no sovereign right to. Do you own a car? I’ve led a referendum to cede your property in totality to me. So I now have sovereign right over your property? I imagine that answer is no.
They were murdered by Russia, it’s on video genius.
That wasn’t azov or was Wagner and they claim responsibility. You’re not even trying.
So again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict? ~~~~
They aren’t serfs, they were free to leave. The land however is owned but the people of Ukraine, not just those people who arguably decided to leave Ukraine.
The video that the icc has in multiple genius. They’re mostly public at this point.
Neat, there’s no evidence of that and it doesn’t change the fact that land is not theirs to cede.
And the mondochians think you’re twat. Good, were even huh?
Azov didn’t find them, civilians did.
You’re aware the official position of Russia at the moment is it never happened all those people were alive and were actors, correct? Why are you taking positions even Russia thinks are batshit crazy.
Could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict?
No international body accepts the donbas or crimea votes and they’re very suspicious just generally if you actually look at the numbers and how they came about. Wagner, russias blackrock use Nazi imagery and murder their own on video with sledgehammers. To add to that there is no evidence of systemic Nazism anymore than any other European nation including Russia. Mother that doesn’t give Russia the right to invade, at all ever and in fact they signed a treaty specifically to not get involved in Ukraine at all.
They certainly do, they have a right to exist without being murdered in an invasion into their homeland either.
That’s a fun non answer. Russia the objective invader and aggressor could simply leave Ukraine could they not?
Fascists are a minority in any nation. The fact that this small hateful minority controls the Ukrainian government is the entire problem. Even after the Svoboda led coup, in an election with millions of former Ukrainians already gone, Zelensky campaigned and won on peace through the Minsk Agreement. He said that America was trying to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainians. Yet, he watched helplessly as Azov Brigade shelled civilians in the Donetsk City Center. Now he is just a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his fascist handlers.
So if a country arbitrarily believes a section of another country would like to succeed it is not an imperialist move to invade and occupy said country. Correct?
You avoided the question yet again.
Could the invading country simply leave and end the conflict? Seems like a yes but I’d love to see what shape you contort yourself into trying to explain how every death since the invasion is not directly the result of Russian involvement.
There wasn’t an election prior to the first invasion, there was a sham election afterwards literally zero international bodies accept and surprise surprise they won’t allow a monitored revote. Weird right?
That’s not the question, you seem to be mad at answering questions or more likely you’re avoiding the ones that make you look like you have the critoval thinking of a partial breezeblock.
Yeah, irrelevant but yeah.
The difference between the maidan and jan 6th is the majority of the country supported the maidan while almost none of America support jan6th. Also Mexico didn’t invade and claim we’re ethnically Mexican did they?
And again, could the occupying invading country not simply leave Ukraine and end the conflict? We both know the answer is yes but the fact you can’t admit it speaks volumes.
Anyone who wanted to monitor secession votes did monitor it. OSCE refused on the basis that secession wasn’t legitimate, not the election itself.
A good way of determining whether Maidan was popular among the entire nation of 45+ million is regularly scheduled elections followed by a peaceful transition of power, not fascist mobs storming the capitol. Early elections were even offered by Yanukovych.
Incorrect they barred several observers and closed several stations reporters were watching. And ocse is correct, it’s not legitimate anymore then me going to Russia and holding succession referendums.
That would normally be the way it works yes if Russia went is sticking incursions into Ukraine. How many days after maidan was out before Russia invaded crimea again?
Maidan ended 2/22/14
2/27/14 invasion
5 days? Hard to hold a legitimate election in 5 days huh?
And again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict, just say yes already and stop being cowardly.
They invaded a sovereign nation for a claim they still can’t prove , they have literally everything to do with Ukraine right now given the fact they invaded it
I must have missed NATO invading Russia, when exactly did that happen?
You know what would stop it? Russia could go back to Russia and quit their attempts at seizing sovereign Ukrainian territory. .ml says you’re unlikely to agree that the aggressor could stop aggressing and fuckoff back to their country at which point withheld elections could happen. Ps. Most countries withhold elections during national emergencies even Russia.
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Blablabla you’re a rightwing turd, go back under w/e bridge you crawled out of, redhat.
You can’t articulate a single damn sentence without ad hominems and meaningless pejoratives.
Say something real.
And you can’t answer a simple question.
Can the invaders simply leave and end the conflict?
Banderites from Lvov are the invaders to people who actually live in the Donbass.
People have a right to exist, not nations.
These folks have not been Ukrainian since 2014. The Banderites call them “waiters” disparagingly. They wait for liberation, refusing to relocate West no matter the danger. And this is why the war has seen the lowest civilian death rate than any other major conflict in modern history. This is what waging war against an adversary you still see as human looks like, the exact opposite of Gaza. This is what a war of liberation looks like.
The victims in Bucha were “waiters”, found with hands bound with white cloth designating them as non-combatants to Russian forces. They were found dead lying next to Russian humanitarian rations.
The Azov Brigade’s idea of “liberation”.
Neat, doesn’t change fuckin anything but neat.
Nation are just groups of people dumb dumb.
They absolutely are Ukrainian because no international body accepts the sham referendum. They could leave and go to Russia, they can’t however cede territory they have no sovereign right to. Do you own a car? I’ve led a referendum to cede your property in totality to me. So I now have sovereign right over your property? I imagine that answer is no.
They were murdered by Russia, it’s on video genius.
That wasn’t azov or was Wagner and they claim responsibility. You’re not even trying.
So again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict? ~~~~
So your answer is not serfdom tied to land, but ethnic cleansing instead? WTF?
WHAT VIDEO? OMFG. you’re just making this shit up as you go along.
The Mayor of Bucha was hosting Russians in their home. The “official story” was that they killed the mayor because they “ran out of vodka”.
The Banderites think you’re dumb, and I agree.
Yeah, Azov Brigade just found them that way. Sure dude.
They aren’t serfs, they were free to leave. The land however is owned but the people of Ukraine, not just those people who arguably decided to leave Ukraine.
The video that the icc has in multiple genius. They’re mostly public at this point.
Neat, there’s no evidence of that and it doesn’t change the fact that land is not theirs to cede.
And the mondochians think you’re twat. Good, were even huh?
Azov didn’t find them, civilians did.
You’re aware the official position of Russia at the moment is it never happened all those people were alive and were actors, correct? Why are you taking positions even Russia thinks are batshit crazy.
Could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict?
No international body accepts the donbas or crimea votes and they’re very suspicious just generally if you actually look at the numbers and how they came about. Wagner, russias blackrock use Nazi imagery and murder their own on video with sledgehammers. To add to that there is no evidence of systemic Nazism anymore than any other European nation including Russia. Mother that doesn’t give Russia the right to invade, at all ever and in fact they signed a treaty specifically to not get involved in Ukraine at all.
They certainly do, they have a right to exist without being murdered in an invasion into their homeland either.
That’s a fun non answer. Russia the objective invader and aggressor could simply leave Ukraine could they not?
All your Banderite fan fiction aside…
Fascists are a minority in any nation. The fact that this small hateful minority controls the Ukrainian government is the entire problem. Even after the Svoboda led coup, in an election with millions of former Ukrainians already gone, Zelensky campaigned and won on peace through the Minsk Agreement. He said that America was trying to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainians. Yet, he watched helplessly as Azov Brigade shelled civilians in the Donetsk City Center. Now he is just a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his fascist handlers.
So if a country arbitrarily believes a section of another country would like to succeed it is not an imperialist move to invade and occupy said country. Correct?
You avoided the question yet again.
Could the invading country simply leave and end the conflict? Seems like a yes but I’d love to see what shape you contort yourself into trying to explain how every death since the invasion is not directly the result of Russian involvement.
Coups are arbitrary. Elections are not arbitrary.
I would love to cede Cascadia to Canadian annexation, if not secede independently.👍
Washing State is a slave name, named after a slave owner.
If Jan6 was successful like Maidan then it would have made it just that more justified.
There wasn’t an election prior to the first invasion, there was a sham election afterwards literally zero international bodies accept and surprise surprise they won’t allow a monitored revote. Weird right?
That’s not the question, you seem to be mad at answering questions or more likely you’re avoiding the ones that make you look like you have the critoval thinking of a partial breezeblock.
Yeah, irrelevant but yeah.
The difference between the maidan and jan 6th is the majority of the country supported the maidan while almost none of America support jan6th. Also Mexico didn’t invade and claim we’re ethnically Mexican did they?
And again, could the occupying invading country not simply leave Ukraine and end the conflict? We both know the answer is yes but the fact you can’t admit it speaks volumes.
Anyone who wanted to monitor secession votes did monitor it. OSCE refused on the basis that secession wasn’t legitimate, not the election itself.
A good way of determining whether Maidan was popular among the entire nation of 45+ million is regularly scheduled elections followed by a peaceful transition of power, not fascist mobs storming the capitol. Early elections were even offered by Yanukovych.
It was never about democracy.
Incorrect they barred several observers and closed several stations reporters were watching. And ocse is correct, it’s not legitimate anymore then me going to Russia and holding succession referendums.
That would normally be the way it works yes if Russia went is sticking incursions into Ukraine. How many days after maidan was out before Russia invaded crimea again?
Maidan ended 2/22/14 2/27/14 invasion
5 days? Hard to hold a legitimate election in 5 days huh?
And again, could the invader not simply leave and end the conflict, just say yes already and stop being cowardly.
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They invaded a sovereign nation for a claim they still can’t prove , they have literally everything to do with Ukraine right now given the fact they invaded it
I must have missed NATO invading Russia, when exactly did that happen?