• Stormy@thelemmy.club
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    21 hours ago

    It’s against their constitution. Russia is propagating that idea and you’re spreading it

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      21 hours ago

      Eurovision is in their constitution? 😂

      The coup was against the constitution. Banning elections is something added by those who overthrew the elected government.

      This being the first time you’ve been told that speaks volumes about your own conditioning from propaganda.

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        20 hours ago

        Stop being manipulative. You were suggesting they hold elections.

        And why are you belittling me. Like the things you’ve said haven’t been pushed by Russian and far right wing Americans for 6 years.

        Manipulative bs is all you’re doing.

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          I don’t understand this fabricated connection with right wing America. Go to Intel Slava’s Telegram channel. It’s the height of Russian Z fan clubs. They hate Trump just as much as you and I do.

          Yes, Ukrainians should be allowed to express their basic democratic human right of self determination, and not treated like neofeudal corporate serfs to Blackrock. Victory or death? Fuck off.

          Ukrainians cannot vote. All opposition parties have been banned. All opposition media has been seized by the state. Men are drowning in rivers trying to escape this fascist death cult. It’s everything you’ve convinced yourself Russia is doing, but isn’t. Every fascist accusation is a confession, from MAGA to Zionists to Banderites.

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            19 hours ago

            You know what would stop it? Russia could go back to Russia and quit their attempts at seizing sovereign Ukrainian territory. .ml says you’re unlikely to agree that the aggressor could stop aggressing and fuckoff back to their country at which point withheld elections could happen. Ps. Most countries withhold elections during national emergencies even Russia.

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                  18 hours ago

                  You can’t articulate a single damn sentence without ad hominems and meaningless pejoratives.

                  Say something real.

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                    17 hours ago

                    And you can’t answer a simple question.

                    Can the invaders simply leave and end the conflict?

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                19 hours ago

                No international body accepts the donbas or crimea votes and they’re very suspicious just generally if you actually look at the numbers and how they came about. Wagner, russias blackrock use Nazi imagery and murder their own on video with sledgehammers. To add to that there is no evidence of systemic Nazism anymore than any other European nation including Russia. Mother that doesn’t give Russia the right to invade, at all ever and in fact they signed a treaty specifically to not get involved in Ukraine at all.

                They certainly do, they have a right to exist without being murdered in an invasion into their homeland either.

                That’s a fun non answer. Russia the objective invader and aggressor could simply leave Ukraine could they not?

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                  18 hours ago

                  All your Banderite fan fiction aside…

                  Fascists are a minority in any nation. The fact that this small hateful minority controls the Ukrainian government is the entire problem. Even after the Svoboda led coup, in an election with millions of former Ukrainians already gone, Zelensky campaigned and won on peace through the Minsk Agreement. He said that America was trying to weaken Russia at the expense of Ukrainians. Yet, he watched helplessly as Azov Brigade shelled civilians in the Donetsk City Center. Now he is just a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his fascist handlers.

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                    18 hours ago

                    So if a country arbitrarily believes a section of another country would like to succeed it is not an imperialist move to invade and occupy said country. Correct?

                    You avoided the question yet again.

                    Could the invading country simply leave and end the conflict? Seems like a yes but I’d love to see what shape you contort yourself into trying to explain how every death since the invasion is not directly the result of Russian involvement.

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                18 hours ago

                They invaded a sovereign nation for a claim they still can’t prove , they have literally everything to do with Ukraine right now given the fact they invaded it

                I must have missed NATO invading Russia, when exactly did that happen?