Repost, but worth it.

This is what the “Luddite” attitude to technology actually is. It’s also important to remember that “recommendation” models are also a problem, it’s not just the slop generators that need to go.

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      They absolutely were. Programming was done on spreadsheets ( the physical kind). It was algorithms that broadcasters used for maximizing revenue.

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          The video is about not searching for answers yourself but passively consuming media. His claim was that the excessive passive consumption has made people unable to research information for themselves.

          Did you even watch the 1st 5 minutes where he detailed how to figure out an antique radio from a picture?

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            I’ve watched like every video this guy has made 😅. I still think the implication is that today’s algorithms are making this problem way worse.

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              I still think the implication

              You made a completely different argument than what the video is actually about.

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                But as you said the point is that “excessive passive consumption has made people unable to research information for themselves”. And as mentioned in the video title, algorithms, which I think everyone else here can agree does not refer to radio broadcasts, are part of that problem.

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                  But as I said earlier, TV had the exact same effect. People didn’t go to libraries to find answers. They took whatever the TV broadcast at them. The TV programming was designed to keep people consuming the media.

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                    Fair for you to make that argument, but now that’s a different argument than what this video is about. In the first 2 minutes he explicitly says the video “is about the modern internet”

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        Not sure if a troll account for stupidity ragebait, but obviously a radio broadcast to all users that “Acme Diapers are Great” is a fucking huge difference to knowing that you, personally, have just had a kid and so now will ONLY see and marketed Acme childcare products. That’s different, right? Kinda targets and excludes you from mass exposure to alternatives? Kinda puts you in a little focused bubble right?

        Now extrapolate to political and socio economics.

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          and so now will ONLY see and marketed Acme childcare products. T

          THAT IS NOT WHAT THE VIDEO IS ABOUT.

          The video is about how people passively consume media instead of search for answers themselves.

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            Sorry, I was just responding to your claim radio broadcast is the same thing as algorithmically targetted advertising. Like a fuckin idiot.

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          " a specific step-by-step procedure for solving a problem" " a procedure for solving a mathematical problem " Notice that 1st two definitions of algorithm does not mention computers. The word algorithm was not invented in 2000 by Google.

          The algorithms networks used 30 years ago were run on computers and calculated how to keep the public passively consuming their media. The video was about people forgetting how to research by themselves.

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            I definitely noticed how you edited your comment so you wouldn’t have to admit that you were wrong.

            Also, don’t try to put words in my mouth. I never said “algorithms can’t exist outside of computers”, and I definitely didn’t say some dumb shit like “Google invented algorithms”.