Gays for Trump might not have been individually popular, but there was a lot more “just because we’re gay doesn’t mean we’re liberal!” type shit going around at the time. Remember, Trump ran as the first president to support gay marriage, conservative LGBTQ was trying to be a thing. Yeah it might not be responsible for all of them, but it surely contributed. I’m not dismissing evidence, I’m looking at the context of times that would explain why the gayest RNC ever would cause a Grindr spike.

One instance from 10 years ago, that is pretty funny though

At the RNC, Trump vowed to protect the LGBTQ community against “foreign” threats, and billionaire Peter Thiel gave a speech in which he said he was “proud to be gay.” This has led some to call the 2016 Republican National Convention the most “gay friendly” RNC ever; Grindr’s findings show that may have been true in more than one way.

It also appears to be an outlier as far as Republican conventions go. Remember this is also back when there was the whole “Gays for Trump” thing, so certainly some of those numbers come from publicly gay useful idiots rather than repressed homophobes. Since such conservative LGBTQ groups have fallen in popularity, and the GOP has been much less friendly towards them, I think it’s fair to say “RNC Grindr spikes” are more anomalous than periodic.

You’re claiming that Republican Grindr jokes reinforce a narrative that only gay people hate gay people, and to that I say, respectfully: what the fuck lol

How is that illogical? That is the narrative reinforced by seeing homophobes and thinking “they must be gay.” If they hate gay people -> they are gay people -> homophobia is by gay people.

I don’t think anyone in significant numbers believes the narrative, but that’s the narrative the behavior supports. Unless it’s an insult and just “haha ur gay,” which while ironic and pointed at a deserving target, is still using gay as an insult.

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It is not using homosexuality as an insult. It’s using hypocrisy as an insult.

The hypocrisy is based on allegedly being homosexual, which is unproven and based on “well homophobes must be gay” which is homophobic.

No one said that.

That’s the behavior of calling every homophobe gay, they don’t need to say it.

yet many of those Republican homophobes are actually homosexual

You say that based on what?

as evidenced by various high-profile instances

Yes, a few high profile instances. I don’t think they happen in nearly enough numbers to outweigh the straight homophobes who have the vast numerical advantage.

as well as the multiple times that Grindr has crashed in the immediate vicinity of a Republican convention.

Do you have an actual source for that? Because as far as I can tell it’s a meme based on a website which takes user reports as evidence of an outage, which would be very susceptible to false reports because it’s funny.

Again – homosexual is fine, hypocrite is not

Sure, but how about you actually wait until one of them is shown to be a hypocrite instead of pinning all the homophobes on homosexuals just so you can have a laugh?

Think about it, Dallas is a huge liberal zone in Texas with a population of 1.33 million, Grindr and underlying network infrastructure can definitely take big loads. Even if every single person there for the convention was a raging hypocrite, do you really think that is enough to cause a complete outage? It’s silly. The articles I see say they expected 20,000 people, and maybe another couple thousand were waiting in a line or something. Even if we assume each and every one is instantly hopping on the grind (which is a HUGE if), it would still be a drop in the bucket compared to the usual traffic of Grindr in Dallas.

Attack Republicans for what they are (or are shamefully revealed to be), not what would be funny if true. That just gives actual straight homophobes an excuse (“I’m not homophobic because I’m definitely not gay”) and spreads the narrative that homophobia is just something gay people do to themselves.

It’s not hypocrisy unless they’re actually gay, and statistically it’s unlikely to be the case for the majority of attendants.

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That kinda applies to you more

I explained why what I think is true, not just shouting WRONG at opinions I don’t like as if that will rationalize it.

It’s not like you’re even using the term ‘homophobia’ anywhere near correct. Bigoted, yes. But that’s different.

A distinction without a difference. So you do agree it’s bigoted towards homosexuals, then? Please elaborate on how I’m misusing homophobic though, I’m very interested. Maybe also explain how blaming homophobia on gay people isn’t “bigoted towards homosexuals” as well.

Blaming homophobia on gay people is homophobic.

Grindr really did crash in that area

Source other than the same website cited every time which is based on user submissions? Because it’s a meme and people are incentivized to file fake ones because it’s funny.

I’m literally pointing out the correlation of Grindr being down and then a large number of them leaving

Is the correlation real, or does it just confirm the narrative you already believe because you are homophobic?

and you somehow drew homophobic and anti-Semitic

boy you really must have reading comprehension issues if you think that was what the quote meant. Please make sure your source for Grindr outages actually says what you think, you’re priming me to believe that you’re just gonna link the first result that confirms your biases.

You need help when you have that bad of a victim complex

Ahh yes, everyone calling out bigotry just has a victim complex, classic. Prove Grindr has actually gone down or be silent, troll.

say it as much as you want, doesn’t make it true

You don’t have to buy it, it’s a fact. Straight people possess the ability to be homophobic, do you deny that? If not, you must accept that by sheer volume, they outnumber any self-hating homophobe. If you do deny the ability of straight people to be homophobic, that is blaming homophobia in it’s entirety on gay people (which is very homomphobic).

If you’re just doing the “haha calling the homophobe gay” bit, that’s homophobic by using homosexuality as an insult.

Ultimately it just comes down to that, if you see a homophobic person and immediately assume they are gay, that is homophobia. You are linking their bigotry to an alleged homosexuality. What other bigotries do you think someone must secretly be part of the group they hate?

ahh yes, back to the bad faith replies, the last refuge of the troll

It most certainly is still homophobic to blame homophobia on gay people. Straight homophobes exist in a vastly higher quantity than any subsection of the population which is gay, the subsection of that which is self-hating, and the subsection of that which channels that self-hatred into promoting homophobia.

Blaming homophobia on gay people is homophobic.

It’s a quote about bad faith actors, you like. Like accusing me of Zionism because I called you out on your homophobic remarks.

ahh, can identify him in a meme, but now it’s time to play dumb

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Is your non-reply to my explanation of your homophobia a tacit admission then? Jumping straight to stalking and personal attacks kinda confirms it.

Feel the need to stalk post histories instead of defending your words, a hit dog will holler. Besides you literally just had a comment removed from a pizzacake thread today, and considering the comments that didn’t get removed, I think we both know you’re the real incel.

Sorry if insulting Sam Hyde offends you, I know your type idolized him.

Nothing left to do there after they crashed Grindr I guess

Right there, silly.

Calling homophobic people gay is a) using gay as an insult, homophobic. b) blaming minorities for their own oppression, homophobic. c) creating a narrative where straight people never need to question their biases or prejudices because they know they aren’t gay, and therefore can’t be homophobic (which is a homophobic narrative)

Do better next time, hon