Ok so you agree then that when analysing these issues we have to start with their relation to class? That gender and racial discrimination are at their core subsets of the class struggle which makes up the bedrock upon which they are built?
I agree, but in practice many leftists never come back to gender and racial discrimination when talking about any of this - it’s always class solidarity over all else. That argument is here in this very thread - that women and POC are inherently being protected and fought for within the class war and that’s not quite right. Oftentimes racial and sexual discrimination are a mere afterthought, but we cannot abandon or ignore our sisters and brothers lest we lose them in this fight. Rockslayer is better at expressing this than I am admittedly.
That’s how we end up allowing our leaders in this fight to subjugate and rape women and little girls while holding him up as a shining example of working class rights.
Ok so you agree then that when analysing these issues we have to start with their relation to class? That gender and racial discrimination are at their core subsets of the class struggle which makes up the bedrock upon which they are built?
I agree, but in practice many leftists never come back to gender and racial discrimination when talking about any of this - it’s always class solidarity over all else. That argument is here in this very thread - that women and POC are inherently being protected and fought for within the class war and that’s not quite right. Oftentimes racial and sexual discrimination are a mere afterthought, but we cannot abandon or ignore our sisters and brothers lest we lose them in this fight. Rockslayer is better at expressing this than I am admittedly.
That’s how we end up allowing our leaders in this fight to subjugate and rape women and little girls while holding him up as a shining example of working class rights.
That’s fair I’m glad we agree so.