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The patent called “STATE MANAGEMENT FOR VIDEO GAME HELP SESSIONS” describes multiple examples where a pop-up might ask a player to let a helper take over the gameplay for a while.
Imagine if a user were struggling to find a rare gem in an RPG; if allowed, the helper would take control from the player. They would proceed to chat and guide the user through the process of acquiring the gem.
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Im definately contrarian here. I like games but some aspects a hate. I would totally give over to a helper for platforming and all sorts of stuff I hate. Heck I like things like the ff12 gambit system. I love rpgs because I like to setup and build and see how it goes.
Can we just hire someone to play the game for us so we can watch? LOL JK. That would be bat-twitch CRAAAAAYZY.
Im one of those people who will totally watch someone else play a game.
So essentially laying the groundwork to microtransactions for video game guides?
They don’t just want the machines to create the art and music for us, they want them to consume it for us too, so that we’ll have more time to slave away at our jobs.
Wake up, babe - the stupid ass patent wars are back again, AI edition.
Oh don’t worry. Some AI boot licker will come to defend this as well. “WelL yOu SeE nOt EvErYoNe HaS tHe TiMe To PlAy GaMeS. ThIs WiLl MaKe GaMiNg MoRe EfFiCiEnT.”
I’ve come to loathe term efficiency
First they came for our jobs, next our hobbies, now for our very entertainment ? Who could ever ask for a feature such as this !?
look, on the bright side they burn up every ressource on the planet.
Next new AI feature; an AI that can watch the series/films for you, think of all the time you can save!
Can it spit on me and tell me I’m worthless? We’ve got a long way to go is all I’m saying.
Are we all certain they haven’t just been asking an AI trained on Pimp My Ride clips for advice? This path seems to point to “we heard you like AI, so we put an AI on your AI to use your AI”. And only X to the Z can save us now
They need it to do something, anything, to justify the investment. As time goes and the sunk cost gets worse, the attempts will be more desperate.
This kind of feature will be for a fee.
They are all looking for a “killer AI app”.
This is why “consciousness” is trying to be marketed as achieved. This assumes the tasks performed can be varied, adapted to, and the AI left unattended while its rich owner fucks off and no longer has to pretend to pay insurance premiums for workers.
Why even bother living. Just get “AI” to live for you, and recycle your meaningless meat form.
You exist to be exploited for the benefit of the shareholders. This allows you to work so many more hours a day.
My biggest fear with this is an arms race between puzzle developers and these solvers. I hope devs never design their games with the expectation that players will use AI
Hell I’d make the puzzles in such a way just to confuse the AI “helper”.
That is kind of same thing. I don’t want the existence of AI solvers to influence how a puzzle is designed at all
Clearly they think that gaming is the same as working.
I mean… Use the developers console or a cheat if you’re stuck with something and want to continue playing, or just quit the game. There’s no need for an AI to do this.
I do wish that more games still had cheats. It does feel a bit like a lot of newer games have foregone them entirely. You can’t type plane into GTA V, and have a plane materialise, like you could in Vice City, for example.
You’d need to mod it in.
I’m not a gamer, but besides getting stuck at one point of an otherwise great game, I read that people were paying gamers in other countries to play as them and “power up” their characters. If that’s true, it could conceivably be a “job” for AI.
On the other hand, how do people buy games that are so frustrating that you actively pay money to someone (person or AI) to play them for you? It goes completely against my idea of what a game represents.
It’s just p2w with extra steps. Pay to get stronger, or pay someone to play for you to get stronger. When games are designed to either make you play a lot or pay to get stuff to make you stronger, some people will gladly pay to either feel powerful, or just skip enough of the grind that they can focus on what’s fun.
I kind of get it, but at the point where I’d be spending hundreds or make someone play for me, I’d just look for a different game.
It’s just that games should have a balanced ‘just the story’ mode where you both feel like you’re actively playing the game but not be frustrated at the hardness. If some impossible perfectly execute or die versions of a campaign exist, then it should also have a leisurely immersive stroll. choose your own adventure movies should be an option. Like those game books that used to exist (Lone Wolf etc); some people roll the dices and play, but just going through the options is no less fun.
I can see why someone would want an AI helper to help ‘finish the game’ because there are games that are locked away by skill when all you want to see are the stories and options. but it’s the fault of developers and gaming culture as a whole if ‘games are supposed to make you feel powerful’ are the only demand that are being catered to. Why should enemies in Core Keeper get stronger in multiplayer when it’s just a local game; sometimes you just want to coop marauding through the biomes, and that’s not a vanilla option.
Elon will love this
so good
First pay for the game, then pay for slop shit so you don’t have to play the game. Corporate big brain time at its best 😄
To be fair, the corpo slop games aren’t really worth playing, never mind paying for.
Edit: I didn’t read, I’m stupid, don’t be like me. It’s even worse than I imagined.
Not even. They’re going to sell you the idea that you’re a game dev, and sell you each piece and asset.
It’s the optimized AI version of “during a gold rush, is the people selling shovels and picks that get rich.”
“Finish” as in beat or best, not as in complete a development work to be shipped
Oh… Holy Fuck. It’s more dystopian and stupid than I realized.
I’m sorry and I hate it
What’s the point of gaming with this?
There are plenty of people who are happy to cheat at anything.
It’s kind of like the old Nintendo hotline. Call when you’re stuck on something in a game. Or just looking up a walkthrough online.
That said, this makes it far easier to ask for help and kids might just rely on it too much instead of figuring stuff out on their own.
With the hotline and guides you still had to actually play yourself. This is a step further, you just watch the game play itself.
At least, it’s not just someone watching a YouTube video of someone else playing… though I imagine some of that is just due to affordability.
I know my young nephew gets frustrated on some games and then just gives up… even if he knows what to do. Maybe when he’s older he could get better at those, but by that time, he’ll be on to something else.
At least, it’s not just someone watching a YouTube video of someone else playing
I would much rather pay nothing to watch a human being play a video game than purchase a video game just to watch the game play itself. I say this as someone who has zero interest in twitch, let’s play, etc.
Just save your money and pirate a fucking a movie at that point.
If it works I expect it to be popular. A lot of people don’t actually want to engage with videogames and would rather zombie through the experience
Exactly, “I hate the grind”, “The boss/sub boss fights are too hard”, “I only have so many hours in a day”.
Some days I barely have an hour to play a game, sometimes I think maybe, just maybe, I could use a bot/AI to get a little more done while I’m doing those tedious life things, then I think “What’s the point if I don’t do it myself?”
That’s a game selection issue IMO. Busy people shouldn’t play games they don’t have the time to get invested into. AAA design and marketing has pushed this idea that every game has to be this big 100 hour open world RPG narrative adventure, but there’s so much good stuff out there that’s over in less time or doesn’t demand huge play sessions.
Right. I mostly buy Indy and, I guess, AA games like Arizona sunshine and metro awakening, 6 - 8 hrs of story driven game, I have elder scrolls (not oblivion but the one that they have remade/rereleased like 6 times, only got half way through that as I kept forgetting what I was doing lol)
Skyrim?
Dammit, how did I not remember that name. The only 2 names that would surface were oblivion and TESO. TY
Yeah I don’t get it. Just have a program write to a file with the finished game data, no need for an AI to waste cycles playing the game for you.
Prior art: I remember a long time ago seeing a video of a Barney (as in purple dinosaur) video game for little kids that would just start playing itself if you didn’t touch the controller for a while. It was a side scroller, probably NES/SNES/Genesis.
