• BeMoreCareful@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    So pulling people over for undisclosed reasons, also possibly genetics.

    Have they taught the computer to be a small town sheriff?

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    The program’s stated purpose is to identify people who may have already committed crimes, according to 404 Media. But the outlet reported finding no instances of that happening. Instead, it reported that the program appears to generate pretexts for police to stop and search people, raising questions about whether the stops meet the legal standard of probable cause. […] “genuine probable cause cannot be synthetically generated,” adding that Border Patrol appeared to be using “parallel construction” to conceal the real reason for its stops.

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      12 hours ago

      We could add to that the fact that federal agents have no jurisdiction in the constitution outside of interstate commerce inside the US.

      That the contention that they don’t need warrants or cause to search anything within 100 miles of any border, land, maritime, or crucially International Airport (90% of the population is within that area,) is unconstitutional.

      Obviously that doesn’t matter now in the courts, and our democrats won’t restore that part of the constitution if they get back in power even if things really go sideways.

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      17 hours ago

      pretext= skin color, political affiliation, everyone not voting for REPUBLICANs, a woman of child bearing age, also will target LOW income areas more than a wealthy or upper middle class neighborhood.

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    21 hours ago

    FINALLY! They can go After RICH PEOPLE BREAKING THE LAW! There’s NO way This gets Used to Arrest POOR PEOPLE who Can’t pay and Then go to Prison instead when there’s SO MANY RICH PEOPLE WHO CAN PAY THE TICKETS FOR ALL THE LAWS THEY KEEP BREAKING!

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      12 hours ago

      Do the feds lock people up for non payment like that states do?

      If so, do you know the ratio they use for days in jail for dollars owed?

      In my state, a couple of decades back I think it was a day for every ten dollars owed. But they are always increasing punitive fines. Like if you get a ticket and can’t pay in 10 days, less time than a paycheck takes to be paid, often 14 days, then the fine doubles.

      If a period of time passes and that isn’t paid, they revoke your license, (150 reinstatement fee, they will revoke a license multiple times after it’s already suspended, I know someone that had to pay 3 of them to get his license back.)

      Then after a period if you can’t pay, with a doubled fee and revoked license, they send you to jail a day for every 10 owed. Then send a civil bill for the cost of jailing you that gets sent to collections if you don’t pay it.

      Do you know how the feds do it?

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    20 hours ago

    Obviously this will eventually be weaponized against citizens and that will be a bad day when it happens. But like if you’re dumb enough to be committing crimes and putting the money into the banking system without laundering it, you’ve kind of got it coming. At least squirell it away in an anonymous crypto wallet, those stupid machines are everywhere.

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      this will eventually be weaponized against citizens

      I’m just looking over from the other side of the pond. But to me it looks like that time has already come?

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        It’s the same as “first they came for”…

        There’s still a lot of people in America (many who belong to groups already being targeted) but think. “Yeah, but I’m a citizen”.

        Just like the Priest who wrote that poem kept thinking “Yeah, but I’m Christian” right up till he was sent to a concentration camp

        A bunch of people really believe this is about immigrants and trump won’t attack citizens, even tho he’s been doing it.

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        We’ve got a lot of tech that has the potential to be misused or used to go after ordinary citizens lying around. This, traffic cameras, ad id tracking, and a few others but so far it hasn’t really been used at scale. There are tens of victims so far rather than hundreds, thousands, or more.

        Though the article did mention that the pigs were using a technique called parallel construction, which is when they have evidence of a crime that has not been obtained legally and they use that to look for other, legal means to collect evidence to prove the crime in court. So maybe this happens all the time and we just don’t know it yet.

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          I don’t know why two people would’ve downvoted this it’s absolutely true. Yes, parallel construction is used by all departments now as they see fit.

          They have a lot more information than people think they do, and aren’t as dumb as people think they are. They also get information fed to them by these shady fusion centers where the feds bring in state and local dickheads in these information sharing spy center things and feed information to police.

          Then you have the snowden revelations, the nsa was filtering down notes on peoples’ files on the LEIN, law enforcement information network, that is what police are running on those laptops in their vehicles. Like, fuck with his person notes and I don’t know what else.

          Then the fancy electronics they have to intercept communications, they use spyware contractors, even the fucking nso group might be getting in on it, with their pegasus type zero click exploits that entirely corrupt phones and computers, recording audio, visual, even when off, seeing everything people do. That is where we are heading. Biden froze them out but you can bet that israeli company got the green light from prez now.

          Just to name a few.

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            They’re down voting because I said the problem hasn’t been happening at scale yet. It’s an opinion I’ve shared before that has been met with similar reaction. We’re very much still in the technology can be misused broadly, we haven’t gotten to the technology is being abused at scale yet.

            It doesn’t fit the Lemmy hivemind worldview though which requires it to be a tangible current problem rather than yet another credible future problem.