The U.S. Justice Department failed to secure felony convictions against most of the 102 protesters arrested in four major cities last year on charges of assaulting federal authorities — a record far below the norm in federal assault prosecutions.
All of the dozen cases that made it to trial, mostly in Los Angeles, ended in acquittal, mistrial or dismissal. Experts say that’s surprising for a department known for its ability to win at trial. The last three felony assault cases, in LA and Portland, will go to trial this fall.
Federal Juries are often more rigged too I believe, pulling people loyal to the police state.
Can you elaborate? It certainly appeared that way in the Praieland trial but I don’t know how common that is.
Federal districts are large, like a state of 10 million people might have two federal districts.
So jurors are pulled from that huge area. Naturally you will get more rural voters which trend more conservative But fed courts are also corrupt and it’s easy for them to rig jury trials.
Just as the South Florida district rigged their supposed to be random selection from the 11 (active) judge circuit to choose a sycophant appointee of the president for both of the president’s cases down there. 1/122 odds it wasn’t rigged.
To be sure, many counties are just as bad to worse. My old county rigged juries for decades and decades for instance, and it took at least a decade if not more of some do gooders proving it over and over until they belatedly admitted an error in their methadology or something. I know a guy from like the 60’s that voted not guilty as well and afterwards the prosecutor told him he would never be called for jury duty again, and he wasn’t.
Over half of judges, and idk how many prosecutors, almost all at the moment, in fed courts are federalist society members, and they have no loyalty to the constitution, quite the opposite.
Yeah a friend of mine was falsely accused of a crime during a protest and seeing them navigate that process really destroyed any faith I had left in the so-called justice system. All it took was a single lying cop and every single person and institution deemed them guilty until proven innocent from that point forward. The rules might claim to protect people from those types of things but it didn’t seem like many people really cared to follow them too closely. But that was a county level case so I have no experience with federal courts and the DOJ.
1% of federal defendants are acquitted, and 90% plea. According to a search page result, not giving me comparable state rates easily, but wikipedia on conviction rates says in part:
‘n the United States federal court system, the conviction rate rose from approximately 75 percent to approximately 85% between 1972 and 1992.[29] For 2012, the US Department of Justice reported a 93% conviction rate.[30] In 2000, the conviction rate was also high in U.S. state courts. Coughlan, writing in 2000, stated, “In recent years, the conviction rate has averaged approximately 84% in Texas, 82% in California, 72% in New York, 67% in North Carolina, and 59% in Florida.”[31]’
The DOJ wasn’t looking for convictions.
It was looking for a way to make protesters so miserable that others won’t follow suit.
Trials are tedious, stressful, and expensive. By making it clear that protesters will face a felony trial, the DOJ has effectively suppressed protest.
Yes, but they were also trying to convict, and they did railroad those people in texas, by their hanging judge out there, because one person unrelated to them shot an Ice, they criminalized everyone at the protest, and a guy for having 1st amendment protected “zines,” some sort of publication.
The cases were a travesty. Don’t think they can’t or won’t win these. Every case they lose will lead them to figure how to rig that area better.
Correct. Here, some prominent protesters are being prosecuted on some utterly BS charges - one’s you’d barely believe - and rather than try to find the money to fight them, and/or risk a loss in court that could leave them locked up for effectively the rest of their lives, some have taken plea bargains instead. I’ve no doubt the Department of Injustice is perfectly happy with this - it has the appearance of them “winning” while dissent and protest are effectively suppressed among those who might be similarly inclined.
DOJ = Depeartment of Jefferyepstinelist
All of the dozen cases that made it to trial, mostly in Los Angeles, ended in acquittal, mistrial or dismissal
lol. lmao, even.
I’m very glad the justice system involves average people to determine a stranger’s fate.
The jury trial is one of the cornerstones of civilization
The UK, the birthplace of modern juries, just cancelled them for everything that isn’t expected to lead to more than 3 years in prison, and instead is decided by magistrates their famously cuntish and aristocratic legal community chooses. Labour did that. Conservatives did it for 1 year or less expected in 2020.
They used the reagan/thatcher method, they underfunded and sabotaged the courts so they fell behind, then decried the backlog they created as an excuse to cancel the Magna Carta. And I seem to care more than they do over there go figure.
As someone descended from Norman men who took part in the Harrying of the North can I do as my ancestors did and slaughter Saxon and Angle nobles once more. Sure you’ll get crimes against humanity that only a Californian would think are acceptable, but it’d solve the aristocracy issue well enough.
Oh Idk about the crimes against humanity part, large swaths of the population are coming around to the wisdom of such an action.
Pretty sure degloving someone’s limbs and forcing them to eat their own flesh is still a crime against humanity or at least it should be once done at scale. Same thing with me wanting to roll them in salt afterwards because my sadism merged with my righteous fury and I cannot seperate them anymore.
They still have assault charges on a sitting US representative in New Jersey for reasons that make no fucking sense
Part of me wonders if this is an attempt to set precedent for not convicting future MAGA rioters the next time they attempt an insurrection.
That’s not how precedent works. And just like in these cases, if the jury at those trials decides they aren’t guilty of what they’re accused of, they would be acquitted as well. That’s the purpose of a jury trial and the requirement for the prosecution to prove their case to a group of average people.
