• GoldenQuetzal@lemmy.world
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    19 hours ago

    This genuinely so fucking smart from Motorola. Whomever is greenlighting this needs major kudos. We’re in a world where everyone wants to move away from US technology now and Google/Apple have monopolized the market. Motorola is making this move RIGHT when everywhere else is going “Is there literally nothing else we can use???” Good play esp as they need to up the specs on a new device to handle Graphene. I am looking forward to seeing what they come up with.

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    This is how a functioning capitalist system should work. Companies competing against each other for the benefit of the consumer.

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      The purpose of a system is what it does. Capitalism is functioning, it’s just that we’re not the beneficiaries.

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    It’s great to see a mainstream OEM work with GOS. I really hope Motorola will make phones with an actual headphone jack. That’s my no. 1 complaint about modern Pixel hardware.

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    There wasn’t exactly anyone else it could be except Motorola Mobility. It’s not much of a leak since we all already knew.

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    Sounds like a good choice. Motorola has some very good budget phones and also good high-end phones. All running pretty clean versions of Android. I hope GrapheneOS will support both a flagship (or midrange) and a budget phone.

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      This is hilarious to me because other than a Samsung once (which made me go back) I had only moto… Until when I finally upgraded I wanted grapheneOS so pixel it was. Very happy about this.

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    If Motorola is willing to have a non-shitty operating system, why can’t they just put a non-shitty operating system on at the factory? All the stock Android OS I’ve seen lately, including Motorola’s, are crappy, have privacy settings disabled, and in many cases are full of unremovable malware.

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      Well, Google wants to continue their trend of spyware and people don’t give enough shits for anything to change. Same as with smartphone manufacturers removing features (SD cards, removable battery) and car manufacturers adding spyware and unnecessarily complexifying cars to make them less sustainable.

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      Because that was not their goal before, they were OK with the level of freedom their users had with stock Android. With the future restrictions Google will apply to Android they are probably looking to ship their new devices with Graphene to prevent that.

      I used Motorola’s products with Android for years and they one of the few in the market to still deliver something close to stock Android with only a couple of apps added for specific features (gestures to turn off flash lantern, etc) so I don’t where you got this malware thing going on with them. Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes.

      Now I got a Samsung and it’s one of my worst experiences ever using their “One UI” and it is really riddled with crap because Samsung for some reason thinks they need to add their own versions of every app included in stock Android.

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        Unless you count everything Google as malware, in that case yes

        Yes, but more urgently, Facebook.

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    While I’m happy that it’s Motorola, i just wish someone like Fairphone also bites the bullet of investing in a proper encryption chip that’s acceptable to Grapheneos. I’d like to see more or a trifecta (duofecta?) of trustworthy OS and sustainable/committed manufacturer.

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      motorolas are available worldwide, i’d ratherit be them over some no name manufacturer

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      GrapheneOS requires I think a few other things, like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port, and a bunch of others.

      The problem with Fairphone is that they have rather high demands (e.g. long term support for hardware, better production practices) but they are a rather small outfit, so the default answer from parts manufacturers is “talk to the hand”.

      As they grow they’ll become more interesting

      I would argue that Fairphone with /e/OS is a combination of a committed/sustainable manufacturer with a trustworthy OS. It does not actively spy or screw with you, and it tries to prevent snooping in many places.

      Of course it’s not nearly as security hardened as GrapheneOS, so that may be an unacceptable compromise to some.

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        like the possibility to completely disable the data lines in the USB port

        the fairphone 4 can do that, calyxos makes use of it

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      Now is this the REAL Motorola or is it the brand name that Lenovo got a hold of. Cause real Motorola doesnt make consumer phones anymore.

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        Lenovo’s Motorola, if you ask me. I don’t think there’s much left at all from original Motorola. But they had a decent track record with their recent phones, AFAIK. Not that I’ve owned any from Motorola.

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          I currently own the 2023 Motorola edge+ and love it. Its got flagship features at like half the price. I bought it for like $700 2-3 years ago.

          • Snapdragon 8 gen 2
          • 8GB RAM
          • 512GB storage
          • IP 68
          • Triple camera 50-50-12MP
          • Stereo sound
          • WiFi7, Bluetooth LE
          • NFC
          • Fingerprint sensor under the screen
          • 68W charging

          The ONLY real drawback that I’ve had over 2 years is that the front glass is curved and breaks too easily for being Gorilla Glass. The curved design also means that case options are super limited so its a double whammy.

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      Fairphone has a slightly different focus, mainly sustainability and ethics (labour rights, production). Graphene’s more on the privacy side.

      Would be dope though, to have it on there as well.

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      I think they just released the fair phone 6 not too long ago so it’ll take a while even if it’s on the tables.

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        I know…I guess it’s just wishful thinking for the future. I’ve gotten a 2nd hand pixel pro last year. That’s…a lot of storage and memory, just about as much as my laptop. Should last me for a while (I hope it won’t physically break for any reason!), so I won’t immediately ride this Motorola wave anyway.

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      Fairphone does partner with Murena for e/os. It’s pretty similar to grapheoneOS

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        I wouldn’t say that it’s pretty similar.

        They have rather different goals and feature sets.

        Sent from my FP4 with /e/OS.

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          They are more similar than they are dissimilar. Only uber nerds see the differences more prominently

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        Im sorry, I think your have spelled LinaegeOS, an OS thats not even security based but to support old Hardware which security has already been compromised by missing Firmware.

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        Unfortunately I was an idiot and uninstalled it when I was debloating my phone. I reinstalled moto actions, but the chop for flashlight doesn’t work unless it’s recently after a reboot (the turn for camera does though). Legitimately temped to make a backup then factory reset my phone to get it back.

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    Haven’t had a Motorola in many years. Hopefully this works out well and we get a really nice piece of hardware that isn’t subject to the whims of Google.

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    The best thing about Motorola is that they ship with a very stock android ROM. It’s also the worst bit, because there’s nobody maintaining any software. Handballing software maintenance to GrapheneOS would be sweet.

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      Ooo I’m sure this is likely for future models, but I was actually pondering getting a cheap pixel to try out graphene and see what it’d be like compared to my Razr. Maybe I’ll have to wait a bit to see how this develops.

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        You can find older pixels on swappa for cheap - my understanding is that we won’t see a GrapheneOS phone earlier than 2027 (which admittedly is only 9 months away).