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Similarly, I believe that before any law enforcement are allowed to use lethal force, they should die at least once.
Well as part of LEO training they bring in a lead box, and slowly winch up the lid revealing 12oz of fentanyl in a sealed glass container. Only the people that pass out for at least 30 seconds are kept as officers.
Practically the same thing.
That’s a part of S.E.A.L. training
Is this why they’re on six now? that’s rough.
They bring them back to life after drowning them
While I’m sure they appreciate it, that’s a terrible way to retain good employees.
I for one support public safety jigsaw
I remember Happy Tree Friends made some YouTube Copyright School videos, but I’ve thought they’d have a real opportunity making public safety warnings.
I feel like some kind of skit show needs to do this. Its the same puppet but with an orange safety vest and a hard hat.
Cue the comments from people not subscribed to the community saying “I have nothing against cyclists but they’re in the way!11!”
Need to get city planners on that bike, not bus drivers. That worker isn’t the reason for the lack of proper infrastructure.
Both are must situations
Every driving school in the whole world should do this when getting a drivers license.
In a lot of countries it is normal that children and teenagers use bicycles. Once teenagers start taking driving lessons they should already be aware of this. Refresher courses would be more helpful.
I get why you say that, and I don’t even disagree, but I would like to point out that it will only be partially effective.
I live in Cleveland, so the only thing seperating us from Canada is a lake. That should give you an idea of how cold it is right now.
Well, people are assholes, and don’t shovel their snow. We had a pretty decent snow storm last week. About 2 feet in 3 days. In response to this, nobody has shoveled their sidewalks, so now everybody walks in the streets.
Last night I saw a guy walking on the street. Plenty of room around him. He was as far to the curb as he could be. 4 lane road (2 per direction).
A guy came around the corner and nearly hit him. They get into a screaming match about how he should be on the sidewalk with 2 feet of snow.
So the guy backs his car up, drives straight at him, and tried to hit the brakes before his car hit him. Well, icy road meant that his brakes didn’t mean shit. He just straight up hit and run’d him.
Thats when I started recording with my phone. He drives off several hundred feet, pulls into a driveway, turns around, and then drives by again with his middle finger at this guy who’s still on the ground.
This exercise would help and work for those who have empathy. You just have to remember, not everyone has empathy.
I mean that’s kind of the point. People without empathy will only see a problem with something when they have personally experienced the problem. That is literally the point of the exercise. You put the assholes who lack empathy in the shitty situation they constantly inflict on others so they see how it feels first hand and suddenly they care. People with empathy don’t need to be taught this lesson.
You’re also teaching the assholiest assholes a new way to asshole people. But yeah the avg assholes will at least understand how shitty they’re being
It’s not going to be a 100% effective tool, but it doesn’t have to be. We have other means of dealing with criminals.
In this scenario, a long prison sentence along with a permanent ban on operating vehicles seems warranted.
Sounds miserable. Around here you get 48 hours to clear the sidewalks before the city comes by and does it for you and sends you a bill.
From what I’ve heard the bill from the city is far more expensive than hiring a service.
It’s standard boilerplate in leases that the tenant is responsible for snow removal.
I used to be a bike messenger and would be riding next to a bus, splitting the lane and a second bus would come up on your other side. It was scary and dangerous.
Busses aren’t the problem, lacking bicycle infrastructure is the problem. Busses move a lot of people. I have no problem with busses.
Busses driven by people who have no idea what it’s like to be a cyclist around busses ARE a problem, when the occur.
Exactly. Bus drivers are better trained than regular drivers. In that respect I used to trust them more. But they are also people who might be into car culture. My partner had a London bus overtake her in an intersection and brake check her while she was cycling. Multiple times in a row. It was super dangerous. We complained to the bus company and they reported back that they put the driver on a mandatory training.
Yes, but also it’s important to remember that there are no such things as “car lanes,” only general-purpose ones. Even if good bike infrastructure exists, cyclists are still allowed to ride in those lanes, which means dangerous close passes by buses could still occur.
In my country it is actually illegal to ride a bike on the normal lanes if a bike lane / path is available
IMO this is how it should be.
I spent years working in the Melbourne CBD, and on the several occasions where as a pedestrian I had to take evasive action, it was because of buses running red lights. Multiple times. You’d think it’d be couriers, or meth-heads, or emergency vehicles (who at least had an excuse). But no. Bloody buses.
Do they have quotas or some other pressure to reach the stop unreasonably quickly?
Also, another factor to consider - are the bicycle/pedestrian paths separated, possibly by a barrier?
I feel we need to include this in all driving courses, so all drivers can really be aware of how scary cars driving nearby is. Meanwhile, we also need to push for increase biking infrastructure
I mean, I’m a bus driver, I’m well aware it sucks,I do not want to be doing this to bike riders, but they’re forced to be in the road because of no bike lanes in my area.
Whenever there’s no bike lane, and the sidewalk is busy/unusable, I just bike right in the middle of the lane so they need a different lane to pass. Not sharing a lane with cars, they’re crazy and will just drive off after hitting you.
Ok so don’t pass them in the same lane
Already don’t, I’m not a moron
I don’t know if you’re in the US, but here you are required to keep at least 4’ of clearance between yourself and a bicyclist when passing them. If you can’t pass safely while leaving that much of a cushion, then you don’t pass them until you can do it safely and legally. This is even on the CDL test (I’m a school bus driver myself). Safety first, schedule second.
Personally, I don’t pass cyclists unless I can safely go all the way into the other lane. 4’ is really not enough space – at that distance a cyclist could easily still fall under your wheels if they suddenly go down. That being said, for me the most dangerous situation is when cyclists ride on the wrong side of the road, against traffic. This is completely insane behavior but something I’m seeing more and more often where I live and work.
Yeah, I do that. I follow the law and do things safely, but this community is rabid and don’t care about any of that lol
(when a city is designed well, most cases there is no need for a bike lane, but I agree more bike lanes please!)
I do not want to be doing this to bike riders
You don’t have to, do you? I’m not sure it works as well for a bus because they are wider, but if you drive a car there’s the option of passing too closely or waiting for enough space in traffic to pass safely. Does that not work in a bus? Would waiting for a gap take hours in a bus?
They weren’t forced to be on the road, they’ve fought tooth and nail to put themselves on the road with you.
I can’t tell you how many arguments I’ve gotten into because somehow cyclists feel like they belong next to the 4+ton rolling metal, instead of risking gasp having to slow down for a pedestrian on the sidewalk every once in a while.
There are laws in some places written about cyclists facing fines for using the sidewalk when it is clearly the safer choice, but no, they have wheels so they must use the asphalt. I will always gladly risk the fine before my health or life. Use the sidewalk folks, learn to deal with the pedestrians.
Yes, blame cyclists instead of the people piloting 2 ton killing machines. Heaven forbid they be safe around other road users and pedestrians don’t have to fear being seriously injured by cyclists.
For some reason it’s better to you to inconvenience cyclists who already have a longer commute to make it even longer instead of some comfy driver who can stop and start with nary any physical input.
And no, the safest choice is to redesign our society for PEOPLE and that means roadways which accommodate all vehicles and heavy fines and actual punishment for drivers who put everyone in danger.
I don’t know what areas you’re talking about, but where I live yes they are forced to be because there are no bike lanes or side walks for them to be on. It is only the road
That is great idea, but it could be improved if the bicycle was a real bicycle & was riding & the bus rode by, way too close.
I remember attending an event for the county employees & public about the dangerous situation for bicyclist, when a Fire Department Fire Truck driver said she never see bicyclist, even if they were there or not. Of course this is M-Dade County, of South Florida, & at the end they were blaming the young kids never properly learning how to ride bicyclist.
I think the reason it’s done on an exercise bike is to be able to do it in a controlled and safe environment. The purpose is to teach the drivers, not potentially run them over.
I think the reason it’s done on an exercise bike is to be able to do it in a controlled and safe environment. The purpose is to teach the drivers, not potentially run them over.
Not realistic enough though. Trust me, how they supposed understand the riders’ difficultly if they are on a stationed bicycle.
Dangerous, really, you know how many times that has happened to me & never hit.
Especially if the bus driver has also been through that part of the training. Either we trust the training to be effective or we don’t.
Especially if the bus driver has also been through that part of the training.
I do not get what you mean, the bus rider is on the stationary bicycle? Or you mean the person driving the bus? The training is only to help the bus driver as a bicyclist understand the bicyclist experience of having the bus hug them. Not *the error possibilty the bus driver on the bicycle could make. The person driving the bus is getting NO benefit, because *even the most experienced bicyclist are not as perfect (including straight) as a stationary bicycle cyclist. That is one of the reasons why we in Fl. have the 3-ft. space/bubble for cyclist at all times.
Without the cyclist moving I will never trust the experiences/?training? that both the bicycling bus driver & the bus driver.Again, I trust that no one would ever get hurt, it is *unrealistic threat of injury getting in the way.*- If it was realistic, then I would maybe not be here right now.
I misunderstood what you meant.
I am sorry that happen, but thank you for being better than most here I exchange with & admit it.
it’s not fear that you feel when a bus is to your side, it’s more like a vertigo, an incoherence because of a wall moving beside, a dizziness.
fear is when the bus is a meter behind you or cutting your way to turn left!
vertigo, an incoherence because of a wall moving beside, a dizziness I have never experienced anything like that. Could you just be instinctually afraid/stressed from riding near buses?
fear is when the bus is a meter behind you or cutting your way to turn left!
Fear is when you’re about to take a narrow blind corner and you hear a bus honking from the other side.
it’s more like a vertigo, an incoherence because of a wall moving beside, a dizziness.
In other words, an exercise bike probably doesn’t give the full effect, compared to being passed by a bus on a real bike that you have to actually balance.
For context, most of the drivers on the bikes were freaked out, but they were laughing, they obviously knew they weren’t in danger but they were obviously shocked by the size and presence of the bus
I’ve had people intentionally come close even though I’m in a bike lane.
Even had people stopped in traffic intentionally move over to block the bike lane when they see me coming. But I have an MTB with commuter tyres, so hopping the curb around them is no issue.
That’s when I squeeze by anyways and touch their car in the process.
There’s no reason to assume malignancy. It’s likely they’re watching you, and drifted in the direction they’re looking.
Like how drunk drivers rear end cop cars that have already pulled someone over.
Nah, Busses are cool.
That’s not the point being made.
