Tech bros are fascists. They don’t need permission for crimes that won’t be prosecuted by the gov they own. Hasn’t everyone learned this yet from the loss of privacy and democracy, distribution and media networks, and egregious theft of art, academia and culture for their plagiarism machines? No?
No?
I used to work in the porn industry years and years ago as a developer (I made the websites) so I can assume how grok got this info.
in the US at least they have to keep information of all their talent that they use to produce content for a law called “2257”. Essentially what would happen is if we were doing photo sets or videos before the content there would be a couple photos or short video of the talent holding their ID to the camera. We’d then take that stuff and put it into a DB and if need be file it with the US government to comply with 2257. Basically this just ensures that the talent is of legal age. For one company I worked for we literally had two ladies that spent every day all day filing this information and sending it off. Because of this they were also the ones that would approve if we could use the content or not.
So you can now safely guess how Grok was able to get access to this info. For whatever reason Grok, and X (probably via DOGE) has access to the 2257 database. Why it would need/want access to this? well…come on we know the reason.
I’m not saying that your argument isn’t plausible. But I have another route for this info.
Grok is training on tweets. Some person tweets “I just found out that my neighbor, Jane, is actually the pornstar Siri Dahl”. That tweet never gets traction, so only 5 followers reads it, but so does grok. Then in another tweet same person combines the firstname “Jane” with lastname “Doe”.
If your explanation is correct, as to where the info got leaked, I’d guess we’d see way more pornstars doxed.
Alternatively, it could be using image databases. Someone somewhere could have obscurely tweeted a photo of this performer off-duty with a note “here I am with my friend/relative/etc.” and included her legal name, and the image-recognition algorithms could have connected that with her performance images and went from there.
Nothing to do with DOGE ripping every data base under the sun… Of course not.
sorry, you have credible reason to believe that X trained Grok using databases provided by DOGE?
You’re saying that Musk training his AI on doge data, and then using that training for Grok is unbelievable? Or do you want concrete evidence?
I mean Musk’s complete disregard for rules and regulations, combined with his own and his cronies’ incompetence, makes me think that, while no evidence exists, the scenario would definitely not be out of the realm of possibilities.
I’m simply asking if there any reason to believe this. You know, beyond, “Oh yeah, that’s totally something Musk would do?” As crimes go, it would be like writing your own name and address on a bank’s wall.
Apparently the answer is no, we have no evidence to support this hypothesis.
If you were an arrogant narcissistic maniac who knew for absolutely certain that you could rob that bank in full daylight, and NEVER be punished for it, of course you would write your name on the wall.
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Now you’re getting it. MAGA dragged us into a post-truth world, so now they have to live with it, too.
I understand people’s concerns about AI but it’s getting harder to take them seriously when half of their concerns are just made up speculation.
AI clearly needs stronger regulation, however all these people constantly spreading their just-so story criticism of it aren’t helping.
I’m not going to fabricate stories, but if the explanation for something is “AI was used irresponsibly” then I would tend to not dismiss the idea. And I’d be prone to propagate the idea far more. It’s not a conscious choice mind you, that statement is a result of self-reflection.
The way people unquestionably, irresponsibly, and without the slighest contemplation of the ramifications, are using AI for the most mundane tasks, worries me. Why do you need to make a photo of someone, who haven’t accepted the use case, into a drawing? Why do you need to have an AI transcribe our meeting and summarize the points? Nobody’s going to read the summary anyway, and now some unknown entity knows what other people said with an otherwise ordinary expectation of privacy.
One thing is that tech overlords have already scraped every image, sound bite, video clip, and written word publicly, and semi-publicly, available. Don’t give them more material.
The personal risk isn’t in talking to AI, it’s in listening to AI. And our environment is already becoming crowded with it. There is an argument that AI is disproportionately expensive and exploits externalities, but it’s hard to take that argument seriously from meat eating motorists.
fashion, what can you do, it’s a power stronger than any of us
Yeah, both are owned by Musk. Go ahead and tell me that I’M the idiot for believing that he’d share his DOGE-stolen databases with his other enterprises.
They want to locate the ones who are not of legal age.
To prosecute the people exploiting them, right?
…right?
You fucked that up. First panel should be locate not prosecute.
Edit: dammit you’re right
Here you go:
Of course, I mean to Trump a 17yo is at best a MILF. Besides she’d be used goods. Well maybe Epstein could have used the girl for less discerning perverts like Andrew Mountbatten-Windsor, but it would seem that both Einstein’s and Andrew’s days of raping kids is over…
Although one could hope that Andrew’s involvement in rapes aren’t over. Now that he’s in jail he has plenty of opportunities to experience spontaneous unwanted violent love making.
Sorry but whenever I hear this wording, I always imagine the porn lobby had a meeting one day to decide on a better word for ‘meat’ and they ended up on ‘talent’
It’s standard film & television terminology. Not everyone sees sex work as demeaning, you know.
all performers across most fields are referred to as ‘talent’.
Why not the more real, laborer?
probably because “talent” is more specific:
that would be like “why not call them dogs?” when talking about poodles…yes, it’s technically correct, but not really representative, is it?
Depends on what the circumstances are. But it’s more of a reminder that while some of the talent in the arts are super rich they are still laborers.
I think this term is used across all industries, Dua Lipa is talent, same as Brad Pitt
I always used actor, singer, …
Their way makes it seem like they’re the only ones there with talent lol
The real news story here is that it got it right
Grok is the sibling that Elon have always wanted
Can I use for dox ice agent?
Yeah. Keep filming them and exposing them so there’s plenty of data for LLMs to gather.
Once upon a time a girl named Nora Louise Kuzma started doing porn at 15 years old. She hired a homeless guy to play her dad (for some reason) and used a fake birth certificate. She got very popular and made a LOT of movies … but when it was discovered they were all child porn they had to be taken off rental shelves and declared illegal. They also resulted in the laws that required that the name and DOB verification of the performers be stored … that is the database that DOGE stols and that is the database that the AI used. In a way it is all the fault of Traci Lords.
She hired a homeless guy to play her dad (for some reason) and used a fake birth certificate.
She hired the guy? Nobody exploited her?
I kinda want to look into this, but at the same time I don’t want this in my search history.
Update: According to her Wikipedia page she definitely did not have a harmonious childhood. Getting raped by her mom’s alcoholic boyfriend, after they move across country from her alcoholic father. Then getting raped by her own boyfriend.
I don’t know what growing up as a gen x woman was like, different generation and gender, but I suspect that Traci Lords’ experience was even worse than average.
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Sorry I managed to read your comment before you deleted it. I’ve updated my original comment as a result.
Her first appearance was as the centerfold in Penthouse magazine, an issue which is now illegal to own or sell.
That same issue contained the nude photos of the first black Miss America, Vanessa Williams, taken while she was in college. When she got famous, the photographer sold them, to her horror.
The photos became a huge story, and she was stripped of her Miss America title. It seemed like the worst thing that could happen to her, but there was a silver lining. Past Miss America’s had tried to capitalize on their minor celebrity, with mixed, but generally unsatisfying results as bad singers, talk show standbys, advertising pitchwomen, opening state fairs, etc. Generally the super-wholesome Miss America image limited them greatly.
But the nude photos put Vanessa Williams in a different category. She wasn’t the same wholesome Miss America, she was a bad girl. Being black didn’t hurt, either, nor did the fact that she had a genuinely great voice, and was beautiful.
So while being Miss America had suppressed most careers, losing the title helped Vanessa Williams escape that image, and launch a highly successful career as both a singer and actor. Ironically, those photos turned out to be the best thing for her career.
She was once asked about that in an interview, and she said while that was technically true, she sure wishes she could have become successful with a different path.
So circling back, that issue of Penthouse that both killed Vanessa Williams’ Miss America career, AND simultaneously re-launched it, is now illegal to own or sell, because it contains photos of Tracy Lords when she was just 15 years old.
Quick, ask it for a list of unredacted names in the Epstein files. And all contact info associated with those names.
Dilemma: do I upvote because publicizing the danger is important, or not upvote because Streisand-ing that her info leaked makes even more people able to get it?
According to the article, “Dahl told 404 Media she wanted to reclaim the situation, and her name, and asked that it be published in this piece as part of that goal.”
Only 404 subscribers get it so it’s ok /s
How did Grok learn this info?
My guess? Data stolen by DOGE 🤷♂️
My guess is “We don’t save your age verification data”…
anyone can guess, what else do you have
Not sure about the name, but her birthdate is on Wikipedia.
waiting for the company to be rebranded xxxAI
Entirely hypothetical conversation:
Musk: “We really, really want to buy the xVideo domain. We have the money. We really need to do this.”
xVideo rep: “Uh, right. But why, though?”
Musk: “We really care about the branding. It’s a powerful thing.”
Is suddenly makes sense doesn’t it, renaming Twitter? He got high ass fuck at some point and decided it was a brilliant idea to have a website named x, another named xx, and his own porn site named xxx.
Article is paywalled.
A few years ago there was a college girl who decided to make some money doing porn, and she got popular enough that one of the campus gooners recognized her, and it wasn’t long before everyone knew. She had dumbly hoped it would never come out, but it ended up making her famous in that world, and she made more money than she ever expected.
That’s a nice story and all.
But the counterpoint is all the stories of women who were stalked, blackmailed, threatened with physical abuse or having to outright flee to avoid harassment.
Yeah, aim not questioning the maroality of the industry or it’s people, just that similar stories have happened in the past. If you think people you know aren’t going to see your porn vids, you’re wrong.
