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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to DeclineIntoCensorship@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 1 month ago

Spotify and the three main major record labels sue Anna's Archive for $13trillion for "brazen theft of millions of files containing nearly all of the world’s commercial sound recordings"

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Spotify and the three main major record labels sue Anna's Archive for $13trillion for "brazen theft of millions of files containing nearly all of the world’s commercial sound recordings"

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schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de to DeclineIntoCensorship@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish · 1 month ago
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Spotify and three major record labels have sued Anna's Archive for $13trillion, alleging that the platform scraped 86million music files.
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  • Railcar8095@lemmy.world
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    So, those 4 companies argue that without Anna’s archive they would be the to 4 largest companies in the world?

    • Rivalarrival@lemmy.today
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      They multiplied the “statutory damages” per work times the number of works alleged to have been infringed. The statutory maximum is $150,000 per work.

      • Nikelui@lemmy.world
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        And they pay how much to the artists per work?

      • Railcar8095@lemmy.world
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        That’s a compelling argument, but my version is funnier.

        I’m illiterate in US copyright law, so nobody take my comment as anything else than a joke

  • Atherel@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Theft? So there’s no music on Spotify anymore?

  • greedytacothief@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    Hey! You stole my other peoples art and allowed people to make copies! We’re so damaged that we are making record profits for the shareholders!

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    The record labels? Sure. Spotify never owned the music, I don’t see how they have standing.

    • ohulancutash@feddit.uk
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      Because they charged access fees, and their systems were attacked.

      • Zombie@feddit.uk
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        Attacked?

      • floofloof@lemmy.ca
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        Won’t someone please think of the rentier capitalist billionaires?

      • voluble@lemmy.ca
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        So in a sense, shouldn’t artists be suing Spotify and 3 main major record labels for 13 trillion dollars?

  • MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip
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    Annas Archive should just host a LLM, then it’s fine.

  • jackmaoist [none/use name]@hexbear.net
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    Isn’t it based in Russia?

  • melsaskca@lemmy.ca
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    Music licensing is the most fucked up greediest maneuvering I have ever witnessed, and I’ve bought used cars. I remember buying a box set of “Bonanza” TV series and, when I started to watch, the iconic “Bonanza” theme was replaced by some surf-guitar sounding intro. Fuck music licensing! Go Napster! Simple rule, once the person who wrote the song/piece dies then BOOM!..public domain. What’s next? Let’s sue all of the travelling bands who play cover tunes.

    • Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works
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      You dont need a mechanical license to play a cover song live but the venues should be paying the PROs performing rights organizations or they can get sued. Small establishments get sued all the time by companies like ASCAP and BMI because of this.

    • Madison420@lemmy.world
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      The Drew Carey show isn’t easily streamed in full because of music licensing. It’s a bummer for sure.

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    So, just out of curiosity, how is this any different than the corporations stealing literally everything to train ai?

    • CallMeAnAI@lemmy.world
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      It’s not. You are both stealing from each other while screeching, it’s just a copy not stealing.

    • galoisghost@aussie.zone
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      That should be their defence. “We’re just training our AI bro”

      If it works. It works. If it doesn’t, maybe it sets a legal precedent.

      • murmelade@lemmy.ml
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        Anna sues ChatGPT for $13 trillion in ultimate legal ouroboros

        • Nikelui@lemmy.world
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          To close the circle you need OpenAI to sue Spotify.

          • murmelade@lemmy.ml
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            “Hey Sam, I hear Spotify is making bank with all your AI generated music!”

    • jimmy90@lemmy.world
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      at the moment i think distributing and selling content is very much frowned upon

      consuming it is not, and once injested it is no longer copy-writable

      this should probably change

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    Might as well be “a million bajillion dollars!!!”

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  • friend_of_satan@lemmy.world
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    But what if it was Anna’s archive dot ai?

    • ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one
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      Then it would be fine.

  • ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world
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    Anna’s archive should have trained an AI model with it instead…

    • Executive Chimp@discuss.tchncs.de
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      …and then produce AI music that they put on their own platform as a way to syphon off royalty fees.

  • cristian64@reddthat.com
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    Where is the archive?

  • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works
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    In 2025, the world’s gross domestic product amounted to approximately 117.2 trillion U.S. dollars, compared with 111.1 trillion in 2024.

    So they’re suing for roughly 10% of the world’s GDP if the site I linked is to be believed. That’s gotta be a joke, right?

    • Vintor@retrolemmy.com
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      No, and it isn’t the first time the industry did this, by far: https://www.businessinsider.com/riaa-claims-limewire-owes-trillions-2012-5

      • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works
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        Yeah I heard about that one. Like, what’s the point of these lawsuits? Making it look scary? Cause to me it looks like they don’t have a clue what they’re asking for

        • Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works
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          Litigation is expensive and the courts aren’t exactly a welcoming place nowadays for the little guy/girl.

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      There are statutory damages of $750 to $30,000 per work assigned to copyright infringement. Under certain circumstances, the courts may lower this amount to $200 per work, or increase it to $150,000.

      Plaintiffs multiplied the number of works Anna’s Archive has claimed to have acquired times $150,000 to come up with their number.

      • bluesheep@sh.itjust.works
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        I see, that makes a bit more sense. I guess it’s kind of the same as asking the highest price you think you can get when putting something up for auction? Cause I refuse to believe there is anyone who thinks that 10% of global GDP is a realistic figure lmao

  • Evil_Shrubbery@thelemmy.club
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    annas-archive.li/donate

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    Haven’t they only actually released the metadata? (So far)

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