Oh, I don’t trust any governments, but I thought a list of ~200 would be overkill.
For those specifically? Iran’s shitty to women and Kurds (but man do I love what they’re doing with the US); China’s shitty to its neighbors, the Congo, and Uyghurs; and the DPRK and Belarus are providing military support to Russia for its neighbor invasion.
So, you do find those governments trustworthy, and you do understand why the rest of the world does, as well, you just have criticism of some of their policies (in some cases, it is understandable, but, in other cases, it’s just old pieces of your empire’s propaganda that you’re leadership doesn’t even bother with trying to substantiate anymore - I recommend you reevaluate what the people that previously sold you on Iraq’s WMDs say about their enemies instead of blindly believing them). Not sure what you mean about the PRC doing something bad to Congo.
Also, considering that you seem to find Belarus and the DPRK’s help to Russia, I have a couple of questions for you:
Do you, in that case, condemn Ukraine helping NATO invade Iraq, Syria, Iran, and elsewhere?
Do you concern NATO self-admittedly pushing for war with Russia (including prior to 2022)?
What should a state do when the most prolific invader in the world - NATO - starts amassing troops on that state’s border?
I do not find them trustworthy, no. Additionally, I don’t like you putting words in my mouth, nor do I like you assuming where my information comes from or what I believed about WMDs, especially when you’re not even informed about the straight up WMF-level financial colonialism going on in the Congo (along with many other recipients of Belt and Road funding).
To answer your questions: yes, yes, and set up defensive measures.
This article about mining agreements in the former Katanga province talks about the fact that 90% of the mineral wealth in the region goes to China, the extortionate debt repayment terms, and the allegations of child labor, but the latter is sourced better here.
He said that 90% of the region’s minerals went to China.
The wealth could still be split differently. Since Congo owns 30% of the mining company I would assume that share.
The child labor articles mentions trafficking by militias. That would be the rebels then which would be less the government and China and more the West.
and eastern conflicts driven by groups like the M23 rebels, who smuggle coltan and gold,
That’s Rwanda which is aligned with the West.
China may exploit Congo but my impression is that we try to get a regime change or such to get the resources ourselves. If we manage to change Congo, which percentage would we offer?
Oh, 100%. I’m not in favor of the US/Canada taking over either- they’re not going to manage anything better, nor will they be less exploitative. That’s what I meant by a grossly pro-US perspective, because it’s obvious that the first source wouldn’t care at all if it weren’t for the profit potential. It’s just also bad when China exploits them.
I don’t know whether there is a solution that doesn’t involve some exploitation, but that’s why I distrust governments- they’re generally exploitative. My instinct would be that a local coalition of nations à la the EU would allow countries like the DRC to stand up to superpowers, but that would require their neighbors to prefer to ally with them over other nations, which is not the case.
Okay, what agreements did they break, and/or what countries did they invade this century, then?
I don’t like you putting words in my mouth
What words did I put in your mouth?
nor do I like you assuming where my information comes from
There are claims (and opinions) that you are making that have very few sources and those sources are the same where one would get stuff like Iraq having WMDs, so you definitely do need to engage in some reflection.
especially when you’re not even informed about the straight up WMF-level financial colonialism going on in the Congo
Considering that all of the claims about the PRC supposedly engaging in financial entrapment of other governments have been false, I have a good reason to disbelieve this claim unless I see a trustworthy source. (No, Adrian Zenz is not one, and neither is RFA.)
along with many other recipients of Belt and Road funding
Ah, so, it is just Zenz/RFA stuff, again.
To answer your questions: yes, yes, and set up defensive measures.
Gee, as fun as this is, I am not enjoying it and I’m going to stop.
As a last note: I was doubtful about whether Uyghurs were mistreated when all of the sources lead back to Zenz, because I didn’t think he was a trustworthy source either. You should look into it more, because it’s no longer the case that he is the only source of information about the genocide China is currently conducting against Uyghurs.
Ok. What are the other sources?
So far, I am not aware of any, other than a meeting where they admitted to having been unable to verify their own sources.
Oh, I don’t trust any governments, but I thought a list of ~200 would be overkill.
For those specifically? Iran’s shitty to women and Kurds (but man do I love what they’re doing with the US); China’s shitty to its neighbors, the Congo, and Uyghurs; and the DPRK and Belarus are providing military support to Russia for its neighbor invasion.
So, you do find those governments trustworthy, and you do understand why the rest of the world does, as well, you just have criticism of some of their policies (in some cases, it is understandable, but, in other cases, it’s just old pieces of your empire’s propaganda that you’re leadership doesn’t even bother with trying to substantiate anymore - I recommend you reevaluate what the people that previously sold you on Iraq’s WMDs say about their enemies instead of blindly believing them). Not sure what you mean about the PRC doing something bad to Congo.
Also, considering that you seem to find Belarus and the DPRK’s help to Russia, I have a couple of questions for you:
I do not find them trustworthy, no. Additionally, I don’t like you putting words in my mouth, nor do I like you assuming where my information comes from or what I believed about WMDs, especially when you’re not even informed about the straight up WMF-level financial colonialism going on in the Congo (along with many other recipients of Belt and Road funding).
To answer your questions: yes, yes, and set up defensive measures.
Do you have a good source for the current situation in Congo?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China–Democratic_Republic_of_the_Congo_relations is not very helpful.
This article about mining agreements in the former Katanga province talks about the fact that 90% of the mineral wealth in the region goes to China, the extortionate debt repayment terms, and the allegations of child labor, but the latter is sourced better here.
The situation doesn’t look that bad for China.
The quote doesn’t talk about wealth:
The wealth could still be split differently. Since Congo owns 30% of the mining company I would assume that share.
The child labor articles mentions trafficking by militias. That would be the rebels then which would be less the government and China and more the West.
No, it’s not super clear from those sources, you’re right. I was commenting with someone earlier in the thread who didn’t want mainstream media, but if that works for you, this one’s written from a grossly pro-US perspective and this one’s more neutral.
That’s Rwanda which is aligned with the West.
China may exploit Congo but my impression is that we try to get a regime change or such to get the resources ourselves. If we manage to change Congo, which percentage would we offer?
Oh, 100%. I’m not in favor of the US/Canada taking over either- they’re not going to manage anything better, nor will they be less exploitative. That’s what I meant by a grossly pro-US perspective, because it’s obvious that the first source wouldn’t care at all if it weren’t for the profit potential. It’s just also bad when China exploits them.
I don’t know whether there is a solution that doesn’t involve some exploitation, but that’s why I distrust governments- they’re generally exploitative. My instinct would be that a local coalition of nations à la the EU would allow countries like the DRC to stand up to superpowers, but that would require their neighbors to prefer to ally with them over other nations, which is not the case.
Okay, what agreements did they break, and/or what countries did they invade this century, then?
What words did I put in your mouth?
There are claims (and opinions) that you are making that have very few sources and those sources are the same where one would get stuff like Iraq having WMDs, so you definitely do need to engage in some reflection.
Considering that all of the claims about the PRC supposedly engaging in financial entrapment of other governments have been false, I have a good reason to disbelieve this claim unless I see a trustworthy source. (No, Adrian Zenz is not one, and neither is RFA.)
Ah, so, it is just Zenz/RFA stuff, again.
Defensive measures like what?
Gee, as fun as this is, I am not enjoying it and I’m going to stop.
As a last note: I was doubtful about whether Uyghurs were mistreated when all of the sources lead back to Zenz, because I didn’t think he was a trustworthy source either. You should look into it more, because it’s no longer the case that he is the only source of information about the genocide China is currently conducting against Uyghurs.
Ok. What are the other sources?
So far, I am not aware of any, other than a meeting where they admitted to having been unable to verify their own sources.