Jensen Huang: Israel has become Nvidia�s second home
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Nvidia has confirmed “Globes” report that it has chosen the Israel Land Authority (ILA) area in Kiryat Tivon to build its huge campus that will accommodate up to 10,000 employees.

According to the illustration published by the US chip giant, this will be a large campus inspired by the design of the company’s new iconic headquarters in Santa Clara. When built it will be surrounded by commercial areas and restaurants with investment in parks and green spaces.

    • VieuxQueb@lemmy.caEnglish
      24·
      9 days ago

      They don’t want to sell you anything anymore anyways. They want you to RENT computing time.

      • Venator@lemmy.nzEnglish
        3·
        7 days ago

        Also thier consumer sales is next to nothing compared to what they’re selling to data centers now…

        And all the companies they’re selling to are loosing money…

        They are completely decoupled from normal economic market motivations…

    • 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish
      14·
      9 days ago

      Can’t wait for AMD to follow them like the little bitches that they are… Then there’s Intel… I guess they exist too…

      I wish I could make a GPU at home.

      • Cethin@lemmy.zipEnglish
        4·
        9 days ago

        You technically can, without that large of an investment. It’ll be incredibly weak though, to the point it isn’t useful in the modern day.

        • 87Six@lemmy.zipEnglish
          3·
          8 days ago

          Yea I’ve seen it done on youtube

          Either you create an incredibly weak one, or one that is strong but has gigantic power draw and latency which would be unusable anyway…

  • 0x0@lemmy.zipEnglish
    36·
    9 days ago

    So new nvidia chip designs will include israeli rootkits, got it.

    • yeehaw@lemmy.caEnglish
      8·
      9 days ago

      I just need to figure out what the best AMD card I can get is which isn’t going to break the bank and be a sizeable bump over my 2070s then I’ll have no more Nvidia products in my home.

    • Syndication@lemmy.todayEnglish
      3·
      8 days ago

      Lisa Su, the CEO of AMD, is related to Jensen Huang; they are first cousins once removed. Hopefully she doesn’t closely follow Jensen’s beliefs, I just thought it was something worth mentioning.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      22·
      8 days ago

      AMD and Intel also have presence in Israel.

      There’s plenty of other reasons to boycott Nvidia, but at this point you can’t avoid Israel just by avoiding Nvidia.

  • Ex Nummis@lemmy.worldEnglish
    211·
    9 days ago

    So now we have to assume that everyone using Nvidia hardware has an open backdoor for the Mossad. Very nice. Fucking lovely timeline.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      212·
      9 days ago

      There’s no US tech without Israel.

      Intel also has a large Israel presence and they have had backdoors in their hardware before, though claim it was not on purpose. Interestingly, the vulnerabilities in the AMD equivalent were reported by an Israeli company. Perhaps AMD crossed them and this was vengeance, or perhaps this was completely independent of any Mossad agenda.

      Qualcomm also has a history of working with Israeli companies on R&D, as well as acquiring some of them.

      And if you thought “hey, maybe Apple, the only real competitor in the CPU space after the aforementioned, has no Israeli ties beyond just selling them products like everyone else”, well unfortunately Apple also has an Israel office.

      Guess what, ARM itself has Israel ties so you can’t TRULY escape Israeli influence.

      Short of RISC-V taking off, there’s no computing without Israel being involved in one way or another.

      Israel is also behind some of everyone’s favourite apps, such as Waze, formerly known as FreeMap Israel.

      Google has two offices in Israel, Microsoft straight up provides them military surveillance solutions and has a huge R&D office… And Oracle’s CEO literally vetted potential US presidential candidates for Israel.

      It’s not just American tech companies either. If you do want to make your own chips, you’d probably use TSMC, which has strategic ties with Israel. ASML, the company that provides TSMC with the ultra high tech EUV machines also has an Israel office, though it’s not like you can make a backdoor with EUV tech… I think. But basically if you have a computing device of any sort, Israel has profited from it in some super minor way, even if it’s just 0.0001%.

      TL;DR: If you use any major piece of software OR hardware that’s not open source, Israel’s probably had their grubby fingers in it.

      • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
        31·
        9 days ago

        Yes. I wouldn’t focus too much on someone being able to tell which map you’re playing, and which color your car has in Need For Speed. It’s way more unsettling what’s in networking equipment. Or inside an Intel Management Engine, and the firmware blobs of all the computer chips. Or the software running on it.

        • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          3·
          9 days ago

          just wait until you know what your graphics card could actually do. live OCR on screen contents, face detection and training on anything ever displayed on the screen.

          unless I miss something then also direct access to all system memory (when SR-IOV is disabled, or has been set up improperly), write access to onboard firmware, probably access to your drives and network too.
          same applies to any pci express device you put into your machine.

          • hendrik@palaver.p3x.deEnglish
            1·
            8 days ago

            Sure. I’m not entirely sure how PCIE works these days. But in it good old days we had methods to read pretty much arbitrary memory regions via PCIE or early Thunderbolt(?).

            I just figured it’d be massively complicated to wait for the user to pull something on the screen, do computationally expensive OCR, some AI image detection to puzzle documents back together, and then you’d only get a fraction of what’s really stored on the computer and you’d still need a way to send that information home… When you could just pick a plethora of easy options like read all the files from the harddisk and send just them somewhere. I think it’s far more likely they do some easy and straightforward solution. And it’d be more effective as well.

            • WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
              2·
              8 days ago

              do computationally expensive OCR

              I think that’s easier to do for GPUs than CPUs, and they could do it nonstop with say a 5 fps rate.

              but also now that I think of it more, the graphics card doesn’t really need to do all this, the manufacturer given binary blob kernel driver has easier access to disk and network

  • Ugurcan@lemmy.worldEnglish
    19·
    9 days ago

    I was just reading Apple doing all of it’s Silicon R&D over Israel as well. Wondering what Israel is promising them to get landed with lucrative business.